The Book of Acts 2:14-21 - Peter explains the Holy Spirit coming

So let's look at Peter's sermon. So the part I'm going to cover today is called the introduction and the explanation. And actually this part is going to talk about, you know, when you read the account of the coming of the Holy Spirit, It's pretty amazing as we talked about last week. It's just that people are kind of having one or two reactions. Either they were just, what's going on here? Or others think, this is what's now. These guys have a problem. There was either polarized reaction.

So that's what Peter's going to address that. He's going to quote a passage in Joel to kind of justify. what he's talking about. And we're going to see that kind of a lot in Acts, especially with Peter. He's going to go back to the Old Testament, and he's going to justify what he says. He's going to say, look back in our Old Testament, our Old Testament scriptures.

That tells about a Messiah that's coming. So he's going to constantly do that. And that's kind of, in a way, that's kind of our modus operandi, in a way. When people talk to him about the Lord, or ask us questions about the Lord, it seems like the natural response is, well, it says in We go to the source of where our faith, we go to scripture. We point out a passage. So Peter's going to do that.

The thing that's going to be a little bit hard is that Peter, at this point in time, doesn't know about something called the church. He doesn't know about Gentiles being saved. That's all going to be revealed to him in time. He quotes without that little piece of information. And we'll see that coming up.

Then, in the middle of his sermon, he's going to talk about Christ. He's going to talk about the attesting miracles of Christ. How he raised people from the dead. He's going to talk about God's plan of raising Christ when he was crucified. And he's going to talk about him being the promised Messiah.

So we're going to see all that next week. And in the last section, basically Peter's going to say, And basically the Jews there are just, I mean, they said, we killed our Messiah. Basically, they're just shocked that they actually killed the Messiah that was promised to them. So what Peter says, he says, repent and be baptized. And we're going to talk about that in the last section there.

And then toward the end of Acts, there's kind of a little summary cover as well. So that's the, that's kind of the plan for the next three weeks here. Okay, so with that in mind, can I have, I want to go back and read, I've got maybe two people to volunteer, one person to read the first 13 verses of Acts, and then one person to read 14 through 21. Tom, go ahead.

And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord, Suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each one of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance. devout men out of every nation under heaven. And when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. And they were all amazed and marveled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galileans? And how here we every man in his own time, wherein we were born!

Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers of Mesopotamia, and Judea, and Cappadocia, and Campanus, and Asia, Phrygia, and Pamphylia, and Egypt, and all parts of Libya, about Cyrene, and strangers in Rome, Jews, and Proselytes, and Cretes, and Arabians.

We do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful words of God. How far do we go? Down to thirteen. And we are all amazed, and we are in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this? And others, mocking, said, These men are full of new wine. Let's read the remaining 14 to 21. that Peter stood up with the eleven, raised his voice, and addressed the crowd. Fellow Jews and all of you who live in Jerusalem, let me explain this to you. Listen carefully to what I say. These men are not drunk, as you suppose. It's only nine in the morning. No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel.

In the last days, God says, I will pour out my spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy. Your young men will see visions. Your old men will dream dreams. Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy.

I will show wonders in the heaven above, and signs on the earth below, blood and fire, and billows of smoke. The sun will be turned to darkness, and the moon to blood, before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord. And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. So now I borrowed a chart from the major Bible themes class. This is that one.

Al Molloy and I brought it back. That was over 10 years ago. So anyway, let's go. And Byrne has his version. All the intent here is to kind of show the church age. First of all, it's to show Pentecost. So here we are. We're talking about Pentecost right now. Peter's going to explain. what's what's happening in the coming of the Holy Spirit.

So here's the church age and here's the tribulation period. Here's the monadal kingdom. Well, Peter doesn't know about this thing called the church age. He doesn't have this picture. He knows about the Old Testament. He knows about the tribulation. He knows about the coming king, the Messiah. So he's going to rely upon information about the tribulation. and the Millennial Kingdom. So he's going to make a reference to that in terms of what the Spirit is going to do. So he's going to use that. But he's not going to talk about, because he doesn't know about this yet. He's going to learn about it, as we're going to see.

So this is kind of a good picture to get yourself. Here's the rapture, Christ coming for his saints. Christ coming, the second coming with his saints. I wasn't going to go through this chart, just kind of for your notes and stuff. I want to go back and look at the last two verses from last week and just kind of put it in perspective because this is what Peter is going to try to answer here. He's going to In the first part of the sermon, he's going to explain what some of the perplexities were.

So it says, and they all continued in amazement and great perplexity, saying to one another, what does this mean? But others were mocking and saying, they're full of sweet wine. So first of all, how many were questioning? Not just a few. That's good. All is all, right? As typical with a group of Jews, there is a disagreement. So it's all, it wasn't just some that said, oh, I got this covered. I understand this. No, they all had issues. What were the two camps? We're going to answer this later.

Well, either they're amazed or either they think people are drunk. OK, summing it up, that's basically it. Wow what is this I don't know or there and actually that we're mocking, we're going to see is you know it's kind of make it is ridiculing it's not a and you see, we sell sometimes when we don't know what to say I mean this, but people will mock people will make fun of something they don't understand it to make fun of it well you know, Think about the fact that we know Christ is our Savior, the fact that we believe the Bible. That's mocked many times. And there's a difference between a gentle tease and a lamb baste. That's true.

So one group was amazed and perplexed. And actually, I looked a little bit. Bob covered sort of this a little bit. But I thought it was interesting that amazed and perplexed is used of another event in Scripture. So let's look at Luke. Let's go to Luke 24. Luke 24. And it's pretty reasonable that people would be amazed and perplexed at this. Luke 24. And we're going to cover the perplexed first. So can someone read Luke 24 verses 1 through 4? Luke 24, 1 through 4.

Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, They came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them. And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre. And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus. And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments.

So we're perplexed in verse four. It's the same word we have here. So what we're going to see here, and this is a perplexed word. And if you turn, let's look down. And I'll just point it out here. Look down to verse 22 and 23 in chapter 24 of Luke. They also were amazed. And this is, it says, but also, in Luke 24, 22, it says, but also some women among us amazed us. when they were at the tomb, early in the morning, did not find the body. And they came saying that they had also seen a vision of angels who said that he was alive. So there was at the empty tomb, there was both these two aspects, being amazed and perplexed.

And those are the same words. So it's kind of cool when you can kind of relate scripture. You know, you take one of that. And they're amazing, perplexed. And here's another event. So it kind of validates that's so. So they were truly amazing, perplexed, you know, like when the tomb was empty. So that's kind of OK. The other group. Now, it's kind of interesting.

There's a in the Greek there's for the word other there's. other of the same kind or other of a different kind. Well this is the word other of a different kind. So these are others not the same as the previous group. Others of a different kind were mocking saying they're full of sweet wine and it's in the perfect tense which means past completed action of the body results. So they think they're saying they're not just drunk. A little bit drunk. They've been drunk in the past. This is a binge. They're drunk for a long time. It's carrying on.

And what's interesting is, if you look in that 1 Corinthians passage, you'll see here. And actually, I'll just refer to it. If you look in that passage, it talks about 1 Corinthians 14. 1 Corinthians 14. And basically that says, and this is talking about tongues, it says, get there, get the whole church. should assemble together, and all speak in tongues, and ungifted men are unbelievers. Enter.

Will not they say, you are mad? So what was kind of interesting, or crazy, nuts. So even though this is, I think, a mocking and a deriding comment, it's not unusual to think that if people, if all of you were speaking all kinds of different languages, and I walked into a place, you'd think, what's going on here? And that's kind of the reaction. Chaotic. It seems so interesting. Parallel passage in a way that that speaking in different languages was, you know, highly unusual.

And people, you know, this group of people kind of kind of mocked it and made and made a jest of it. Roger, what I really find amazing is that a lot of these Jews knew the Old Testament and studied it. Were they forgetting about the Tower of Babel when the reverse happened? Where the languages were confused and people scattered? Apparently they didn't draw a parallel.

Well Peter is going to try to remind them here, we'll see shortly, about the Holy Spirit and what they should remember about Him. But that's true, they didn't seem to make the connection here. OK, so let's go on to the OK, so now we started with the first for this week. But Peter taking his stand with the 11 raised his voice and declared that. So we're just going to look at that whole section.

So so it doesn't say in the text. So where is Peter giving his sermon at? Do you think actually, where is the more information that may help us here? What do you think? And actually that scripture doesn't tell us. We have to kind of infer it in a sentence.

I mean, where it might be. Well, this is kind of a feast day anyway. So there's people crowding the street. So it could be anywhere in Jerusalem, wherever the meeting point was at the apostles and believers were. Right. You know, some people have said that they kind of have focused on the court of the Gentiles, the outer court of the temple. That's one thought, but it seems like it, whereas we're going to see here, it's a place where Peter has to raise us.

He has to talk loudly and it's going to talk to a large crowd eventually. So it's kind of moved. They weren't coming up the upper room. It kind of moved. It doesn't say that they move someplace else. It seems like so taking his hand with the 11. This is kind of interesting. This is the idea that.

You might say Verne taking his stand with the elders. So what does that imply if Verne takes his stand with the elders? What does that imply about the elders and what he's going to say? They're all in agreement. Right. So I think that Peter, he was a spokesperson. He's going to tell them. I think the apostles, they understood what was happening. and they want to inform the people. So it says, taking his stand with the 11th. So he was kind of put forth as a spokesman.

Actually, there's an Acts 6.2, if you want to just kind of turn over, Acts 6.2, it talks about the apostles again, and kind of a similar kind of thing where, like taking his stand, in Acts 6.2 it says, And the 12 apostles, some of the congregation of the disciples, said, it is not desirable for us to neglect the word of God in order to serve people. So I think this is what Peter is going to say is what the apostle believed. What happened? It wasn't just Peter was the brightest guy in the block. We know that's not true. No, he's not.

The Apostles understood this and he's going to be there as well. So now I ask, why does he raise his voice? And this is one of the reasons why I think it seems like, and we know it's going to be 3,000 when we save eventually here. This is a large crowd. He's out where he has to speak loudly. So that's kind of interesting. OK, then it says he raised his voice and declared to them. So declare is to utter, to speak, pithy, that's fine, pithy and remarkable sayings. And let's have a parallel verse here. In Acts 26, 25. Acts 26, 25.

It's only that I'm not insane. Most excellent festus, Paul replied. But I am saying is true and reasonable. OK. So what I'm saying or what I'm declaring the words of some in my sense of words, a somber truth. So he was declaring this is something that is true. And then he's going to come a lap and it's going to see who the audience is. And then we're going to later see the importance of what he's going to say. He's going to talk about how important this is. And he's going to use kind of imperative moves.

It says, Minna Judea, and all who live in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and give heed to my words. So that's the part I was speaking about. So first of all, notice this audience. It's Minna Judea. Well, sorry Roger. Go ahead. Weren't there people in from everywhere? Well, OK. Remember, that was because of Pentecost. So this is mostly Jewish audience. They don't come for Pentecost unless they're Jewish. So what is living in Judea? Where's Judea? Judea is a surrounding area.

OK. So they could have the different dialects and everything. Bob pointed out there was a 20 mile radius or I've forgotten what he had in his notes here, but something about a 20 mile radius that they would typically come for. OK, but they're speaking different languages. What's interesting is even though they they spoke, that's actually kind of amazing, but it's not so amazing. I was in England for a while and actually the dialects between different like Yorkshire and the south of England, it changes within five, 10 miles just drastically. Quick, quick illustration. Your baby has gone down the plug hole. You might have remembered that hit, too. But dialects do change. It doesn't take a large distance.

So it's men of Judea, or men of Jews living in Judea, and the other ones, and all who live in Jerusalem. So he's greeting the ones that have come in, and the ones that live in Jerusalem. And it's primarily Jewish audience. So there are two parts to this declaration. And it's in the imperative mood. This is not just, oh, by the way, I'm sorry.

Just one thing to remember, though, with all of these other languages or the reason that they're there, as you mentioned, was for the feast. But the reason they were there for the feast is because they were they were Jews. So, yeah, when you say they're speaking primarily to a Jewish audience, they were only there because they were Jews worshipping at the feast. They were proselytes. They were from other. or other people groups, but they work in Congress to Judaism. And so they were there participating. It's hard to believe that there would be non-Jews there.

That would be like us going, you know, think of when I go to some other Wailing Wall thing. I don't go to the Wailing Wall as a religious observant. Some people do. If you watch it, if you ever get a chance to do that, it's pretty amazing. People will put little notes in the wall. They'll have their phylacteries on. It's a very serious thing. That Wailing Wall is very, very important.

That's part of the temple. I've never kissed this dog. So. So OK. So there are two parts to this. And the imperative mood is a mood. He's saying this is really OK. Let it be known. And I. This is a command. Don't be silent about this. Let it be known and give heed to my words. So both are in the imperative mood. I had a couple of verses that kind of hopefully helped out there. So let's look at. And these are verses where it uses that phraseology, let it be known.

Let's look in Acts 4.10.

So does someone read Acts 4.10?

Let it be known to all of you, to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by him this man is standing before you well. So what we're going to see is whenever that that phrase algae is a really a really important thing that's going to be said.

And actually, the very last one is kind of good to 28, 28, 28, 28. So here's point out that this is something that's really important and he wants it to be known as 28, 28. says, let it be known to you, therefore, that the salvation of God has been sent to the Gentiles. They will also listen. And it's just kind of interesting to read 29.

And when he had spoken these words, the Jews departed, having a great dispute among themselves. So they didn't take this idea of the Gentiles being part of God's plan easily. He's a double swamp. This is the last verse of the Acts, and they're still struggling.

And give heed to my words, imperative to move again. And this is just one, you know, in Job, when God talks to Job, he says, in 3714, listen to this, O Job, stand and consider the wonder of God. I think that's actually why he got himself. The point here is that Peter is saying, let this be known and give heed to my words. This is really important what I'm going to tell you.

OK, so now he addresses head on. He says, for these men are not drunk, as you suppose, for it is only the third hour of the day. He's not give his explanation. He's not drunk. So suppose it was 10 o'clock. They could be drunk. Actually, we're going to see about that. So suppose is to take up a thought.

Actually, that verse I referenced there is basically a parable that Christ tells. Christ tells a parable about the one who gave 300 denarii and the one who gave 5 denarii. Christ asks, who is going to be more thankful? And the guy answered, well, I suppose the one that gave more, you know, and he was forgiven instead. It's basically, I'm telling, I told the story pretty poorly, but anyway, the one who, the one who was forgiven more, be more thankful.

That's what you would think. And that's kind of the context here. Basically, he says, you suppose him to be drunk. It's the third hour of the day, which is only 9 AM in the morning. And here's a little interesting thing I got from Constable. It says that scrupulous Jews drank wine only with flesh, or meat. And on the authority of Exodus 16a, which basically says they ate bread in the morning and flesh only in the evening. Hence, wine could only be drunk by the scrupulous Jews in the evening.

And that's Peter's point. Peter says, hey. It doesn't match with the customers. Following along with that, other commentators also point out that the whole process of the morning sacrifices and such, the Jews would get up, they would go do their morning routine, and they would go through the morning sacrifices. And then after, basically after noon, they would go back and then they would refresh themselves with food and whatever else. And so it follows the same pattern. Right. And they were, you know, as we as we see, they were meticulous at at observing customs and rituals and traditions.

I mean, it's just, you know, beyond what they held that. So I think here's arguments that can't be grown too early in the morning. The customs don't allow it for various levels. Well, it just seems kind of funny, too, because I didn't think they would get drunk anyways, even when they're drinking wine with their... Exactly. Would a scutinous Jew or an observant Jew get drunk? Anyways. Right. I guess so.

You guys ever watch Monk? Familiar with Monk? You know, the cool thing about Monk is, you know, he still remembers his wife. And, you know, any other girl that comes into his life, You know, so there's one episode where Stallmeyer, you know, he's the captain. Some lady accuses Monk of molesting her.

And he says, you know, you can't be right. So just based upon that. Yeah, I was a world stories made up, but just got interesting. If the Jews were known to be, you know, right on the money. And then the general cultural understanding seems to be, as Paul tells later in the New Testament, he says, those that are drunk are drunk in the night. And so that was the understanding.

He said that, you know, didn't have to qualify it. But, you know, his readers would understand. Well, yeah, nobody gets drunk in the morning. Generally, obviously, there are exceptions. All right. I think we can get out of the drunk tank now. OK. So let's go on. OK.

So now we're going into a very interesting section. This is this is what was spoken through Joel the Prophet. And this is this is the first two sections of what is referenced in Joel. OK, so so basically that that little phrase says, Peter says, this is what our King James has. This is that was spoken. I kind of like the amplified. He says, but instead, instead of instead of being drunk, This is the beginning of what was spoken through Joel the prophet.

So we're going to get into the section here. We're going to look at Joel for a bit. We're going to look at Ezekiel, other places, the Old Testament. And this goes much to the point about is what he's speaking in Joel. And actually, that's my next bullet. He doesn't really say in here that this is fulfilling Joel's prophecy. So what you find is people have taken these This is Joel's quote here. And they've tried, I think, wrongly tried to bring it in to this New Testament when I don't think it's really appropriate. I think there is a point of comparison, but we're going to see that. So let's look at Joel. Joel 2, 28 and 29. And it's virtually the same with a couple of little exceptions. Virtually the same as what is in Acts here. So if someone reads Joel 2, 28 and 29, I'm going to cover it in two sentences.

And afterward I will pour out my spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy. Your old men will dream dreams. Your young men will see visions. Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my spirit in those days. This prophecy, which is virtually the same, there's a couple of little differences. It says, in the last days, that's a little bit different. This is God says. But the rest of it is pretty much verbatim.

If you look at the context of what's going on, he's talking here about the millennial kingdom. So that's a study unto itself. But I'm going to try this, Paul, in a few little, there's a bunch of verses that talk about the pouring forth of the Holy Spirit in the millennial kingdom. I want to read a few of those.

I think it's interesting how he says I'll pour forth my spirit. It really shows the unity of the Trinity versus I'll pour forth the Holy Spirit as a separate entity. It's like it's my spirit, but it's separate. We have one God. And explaining the Trinity is a tough goal. But basically, that's absolutely right. I like that. My spirit. And that's referred to many times. So now, let's look at Ezekiel for a little bit. There's about three verses I want to cover. One I have on the handout. But let's look at Ezekiel 36.

These are all verses that speak of the Holy Spirit and what's going to happen in that time period in the Millennial Kingdom. Now, the Millennial Kingdom is when Christ comes to rule and reign, the Messiah. So they knew about a coming Messiah. They didn't know what would happen, but they knew about a Millennial Kingdom and a Messiah.

So, Ezekiel 36 and verse 27. Could someone read that? I got that one. I will put my spirit within you and cause you to walk in my statutes, and you will keep my judgments and do them. And then, you know, there's just a whole bunch of interesting things. And they talk about, you know, the land. You know, God's going to give them a whole bunch of, we're going to see a whole chart on the blessings in the Millennial Kingdom. But the focus of these verses here, I will put my spirit upon you, it will cause you to walk in my statutes, you will carefully observe my ordinances, and so on.

So that's that's one. The next one. Let's jump down. Let's go to thirty nine. Thirty nine. Thirty nine. Twenty five. He's equal. Thirty nine. Twenty five. Because some of the twenty five to twenty nine is equal for you. Actually, I have a few versus what I have now. I can read it. Some of the Ezekiel thirty nine. Twenty five to thirty. Twenty five through.

Therefore, thus saith the Lord God, Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name. After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwell safely in their land, and none make them afraid. When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemy's lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations, Then they will know that I am the Lord their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen. But I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there. Neither will I hide my face any more from them, for I have poured out my Spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord God. So you can see these passages. This is a tender care of the Lord. And this is this is what's so neat about rightly dividing. Israel is God's chosen people. He's treating them. He has a land prepared for them. He's going to bless them in the land. And that's a common contrast to what we see in terms of the church age. So this is so.

The ministry of the Holy Spirit, and I actually have one more verse here, the Ezekiel 37, 14. I will put my spirit within you, and you will come to life, and I will place you in your own land. Notice the land, the land comes up over and over again. And you will know that I, the Lord, have spoken and done it because of the Lord. So the focus of what he's going to do is in this land that he's going to set aside for the nation of Israel.

So what I did here, I tried to go through and just compare what Acts says about what the Holy Spirit works in the first two verses there in that quote. So in Acts, it says, we saw some of the miraculous signs. We saw a noise like a wind from heaven. We saw tongues as a fire on each one. And according to the calendar earlier in the book there, it was 120 persons. It says all were filled with the Holy Spirit. And it says they were speaking in other languages. That's a ministry of the work of the Holy Spirit as described in Acts 2.

Now in Joel, he's quoting what I believe is the Millennial Kingdom. And it's a different picture. He says, my spirit on all mankind. And I think in context, that's probably, again, it's a nation of Israel. It's in the land. He's focused there. So it's all mankind in parentheses, meaning Israel. It says, your sons and your daughters will prophesy. Your young men will see visions. Old men will dream dreams. Even on your male and female servants, I will pour out my spirit.

So the reason I'm doing this is just because, and I come across this, people will try to bring this forward and make this applicable in Acts. And that's what I should see going on in the body of believers according to Acts. And I think, wow, you really do? That's what's happening in the millennial kingdom. It's a different people. So anyway, so I don't think we have any violence agreement here, but I just thought this was kind of good to kind of see that comparison. There is still a violent disagreement, but I understand because I have looked at a number of different commentaries and I actually do see this as a fulfillment of Joel.

Really in the same sense that Christ speaks of in the same way. This is he of whom the prophets spoke. Isaiah that comes and John the Baptist even said this is he whom I, you know, and so there is no direct reference to fulfillment, but it is mentioned that this is the fulfillment, even though we're not using that terminology. And then in this, of course, Christ's atonement, or in 1 Timothy chapter 2, the ransom was paid for all in 1 John chapter 2, that Christ's propitiation for our sins and for the sins of the whole world. payment is sufficient for all just as if the Holy Spirit is poured out on all mankind and yet those why then whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved if the Holy Spirit is poured out on all that as a whole nother beast looking in the book of Acts we see obviously there are those that prophesied 120 men and women are there speaking in tongues and Philip the Evangelist his daughters four daughters who prophesied Ananias, an old man, dreamed a dream and in his dream Paul came and Cornelius also had a vision and others. So those things all happen in the book of Acts as a transitionary book and I believe that it is a fulfillment there as you already mentioned though the Amplified version points out that it's a beginning of because obviously at this point there's no blood, there's no water, there's no smoke and so there's part one, part two however it may be, but that this is a, here is the Holy Spirit poured upon all flesh, but whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord will be then indwelt by the Holy Spirit.

Anyway, like I said, no violent disagreement there. Well, why don't you hear me out for the rest of this? Sure. And I think we're somewhat along the same line here. Let's just kind of continue here. OK. So what I have here is this is a chart from the Major Bible Theorist class. And basically, I highlighted the one about the pouring out of all people from Joel.

But here are some of the blessings in the Millennial Kingdom. It's a period of peace and plenty, deliverance from those who call upon the Lord, restoration of Israel, a time of plenty, blessings. pure language, and so on. It's a wonderful time period for the nation of Israel.

So he's not talking at all, like you said, about the church age. This totally jumps to when Christ comes back. I guess the question is, is there any part of what he quoted in Joel that's applicable? And I think there is a part that he's speaking of. And I think basically it's the Holy Spirit. He's speaking of the ministry of the Holy Spirit. And I don't think he's speaking about that. Those things are ended. They didn't happen in that early part of X. X2 had none of those visions, none of those things happening. All we saw was that they spoke in other languages. All right.

So then the second part of this, I will grant wonders in the sky above signs on the earth. blood and fire and acres of smoke. The sun will return to the darkness and the moon and the blood before the great glorious day of the Lord shall come. And it shall be that everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved.

So this actually is referring to a different and this is a quote again from from Joel, the last two verses. And this is actually speaking of a time period before Christ is coming. And here's kind of a parallel verse in Matthew 24, 29. And you'll see there's some matching here.

But immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light. The stars will fall from the sky. The powers of the heavens will be shaken. And the Son of Man will appear in the sky. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn. And they will see the Son of Man coming from the clouds of the sky with power and great glory.

So there are actually two parts, I think, in what he's quoting. He talks about the first part is about the Holy Spirit in the millennial kingdom. The second part is talking about these wonder and signs that are going to happen when Christ returns. And one of the key things here is this day of the Lord, You know, the day of the Lord starts basically at the beginning of the tribulation period and extends through the mother of kingdom. So that's called the day of the Lord, and that's what he's referring to here. OK, so now we're going to get down to the crux of it.

So why is Peter quoting these verses from Joel? And there are just tons of people out there. There's a variety of opinions out there. I looked at all of those, but here's my thought. If you look at what Peter's been doing, and he quotes the Old Testament to validate what he's talking about.

So it's interesting here that when they talk to the Lord, they say, Lord, so when they had come together, they were asking him, Christ, saying, Lord, is that this time you're restoring your kingdom to Israel. So they're looking, once again, they're focused on the end times. They don't see the church in view. They're focused on God restoring the kingdom to Israel, the millennial kingdom, with the Messiah as king, or Christ as king.

And then he quotes And we covered this was covered earlier about the choosing of the bias. And once again, we went back to the Old Testament and he validated what was going on. There are actually two verses of that. that he quoted to validate the process they went through in choosing, replacing Judas. So here's, I kind of like this quote by, I think, Futenbaum.

And it says, if Acts 2 is simply applying Joel 32 to a New Testament event because of one point of similarity, In Joel, the spirit is poured out, resulting in unusual manifestations of prophetic dreams and visions. In Acts, the spirit is poured out, resulting in unusual manifestations of speaking in tongues.

And I don't know whether this is absolutely crucial, but I think it's kind of important that you come to see those things don't line up. The details of the prophecy don't line up. Our brother here has pointed out that there are other times in Acts when maybe there are some visions seen. But as far as Acts 2 is concerned, we don't see those things happening.

And Peter's trying to justify to the Jews right there who saw those miraculous signs. So it seems to me, take the simplest approach here. The simplest approach is he's saying, the Holy Spirit's going to act miraculously, and the kingdom is coming. Look what's happening right now. The Holy Spirit is acting miraculously right now. God is working here. It's a simple explanation rather than saying, well, okay, I can't find any visions here. I can't match them up. I can't match those two columns up in that one chart I have. But I can match up the fact that the Holy Spirit's working. The Holy Spirit is causing people to speak in other languages.

And that's a miraculous thing that's going to happen in the Millennial Kingdom too. But it's going to be a different... He's going to do more miraculous things. So anyway, that's my take on it. OK, this is not the Millennial Kingdom times. This is the Holy Spirit times. We don't know what's coming up next, but this isn't that yet.

It might be like you. If you had read something, and you said, Roger, look, I read about this. Look, it's just what you told me. Look over there. It says stuff like this. And you compare it with the fact that the Holy Spirit's working. So I think that's a focus that I saw. The Holy Spirit's working. He will work in the Millennial Kingdom. He's working here. And that's, you know, others.

I mean, there's a whole bunch of us. Say, you know, I'm not really equipped to go through all those. But so this is kind of the simplest approach. And Tom, I didn't get your question from way back. OK. All right. Sorry. Any other. It might be like those people who say the world's going to end tomorrow. You know, and it's saying like, no, this hasn't come yet. We don't know when that time is going to be, but this is what's going on now. I guess I have a real hard time taking those events and trying to stuff them into Acts 2. I just can't. It's kind of hard to do that. And maybe, you know, I'll just point out, maybe you can say, OK, maybe those are things that are coming down the road. As far as Acts 2, talking to the ladies right there, I don't quite see it.

But we also know from Acts 2 that they were marveled that there were men and women speaking forth the marvelous works of God and so obviously these are things that you know that they are amazed they marveled and they said you know how do we hear these things because they heard you know speak in our own tongues the wondrous works of God and it was these wondrous works of God that came as this was what I see, this is the proclamation of the truth of God, the prophesying, in some degree the sons and daughters, the men and women that were prophesying. But as we see in the passage, obviously it's a progressive fulfillment, where one thing happens here, one thing happens later, and then obviously prior to the Millennial Kingdom, we see the sun, the moon, and the stars. But we saw all those things fulfilled and happening.

So it seems like he He picked a larger passage. And he said, oh, there are some things that are similar here. The Holy Spirit's working. He had worked in the Millennial Kingdom. And look, he's starting right now. I mean, it's like, wow, this is starting right now. That would be pretty, I would be pretty amazed if I knew about the Millennial Kingdom. And somebody says, look what's happening right now. I mean, that's pretty.

Well, we have the advantage of hindsight, so we can look back at that and bring in Paul when he comes along with the mystery of the church. But on the same respect, I wonder how we're going to react to those things that are prophesied in the Millennial Kingdom. It's going to be like wow to us. Even though it's been told what we'll be like, but it's still an experience that we haven't had yet.

So this is, you know, like I said, this is there are a variety of I've given, you know, what I've kind of come up with. Now, there's there's plenty of people on, you know, what we said, people that there's some kind of turns out that you can not have. None of the details have to be there. Just a general idea. And I kind of struggled a little bit. Well, OK, I'm a guy. I'm an engineer. I can see X and Y. OK, this line. So I want to see anyway.

Saying it's sort of a film and it's just kind of a general fuzzy wuzzy. So it's like. Any last thoughts or comments? And I read at least four different perspectives, at least four different perspectives on this from admired. Actually, you know, there are plenty of folks that are, you know, see this is partial fulfillment, fulfillment in a general sense. I mean, there's all there's people all over the place.

And oh boy, you know, let's talk to Peter or talk to me. I don't really know. Well, I think from the quotation, though, how many times have somebody asked me a question? I've thought of it. I said, well, I know the verses right here. And in reciting it, I recite the whole. passage that I'm thinking of, and they didn't have chapters and books and verses and such, so as Peter was saying, he said, I want to bring up this point, but I memorized this point, so let me, I'm just going to share with you the whole thing I know, and it's in there somewhere.

It's actually surprising, surprisingly he quotes about the coming of the Lord, he's trying to justify this miraculous thing that happened, but he attacks on this The coming of the Lord in the tribulation, I say, why is that there? If he's trying to tell about the Holy Spirit, it doesn't exactly fit. And so I kind of think of it, you know, he memorized the entire text there. So he just gives the whole thing and he's a lot of this. But, you know, I mean, I was the Holy Spirit that had him quote that whole thing for a reason. Right. For me, oftentimes I just quote the whole thing because that's how I've memorized that chasing rabbits. Well, thanks. That's great comments.

And it would seem that one of the things that tends to be lost in all the argumentation is there is a very real possibility that the Jews as a nation could have come. I mean, Caiaphas and their party, they might be the lone rangers that would have been left out. But as a nation, the Jews easily could have gone ahead and said, this really is so. Well, what you're saying is that they thought that one of them was going to start right then. And when he quoted that, they think, yeah, they were waiting for it. I'm sure those who did believe that it was a division instead of the new Jews as a nation, just a small minority.

But what's interesting, Peter's going to go in this next section. He's going to preach Christ. He's going to show them that Christ is a Messiah. So he's going to, he's going to be, this is what God has done now. through Christ, Christ died, he's going to show them, and you killed him, and he's going to convict them, the Holy Spirit is going to convict them that Christ isn't a side, he is a Savior. In my study bible it also makes another point, it says that Peter began the sermon by quoting from Joel, because part of it, God had promised that there would be a time when all those who followed him would receive his spirit and not just prophets and kings and priests.

So maybe that was partially like reassuring, like it's going to be all people. It's not just going to be, you know. The monkey mugs. Well, actually, what's amazing for the Jewish perspective is that it's going to be the Gentiles. Yeah. They're going to be saved, too. By now. I don't know about that. They fork. They can. Here, Father, we thank you so much tonight. Thank you for this day, Father. Thank you for the blessings we have. In Christ's name, amen.