1-3 John - 1st John 2:24-27 Truth and Falsehood - part 2
1 John 2:24-27 · Roger Henderson · Apr 17, 2011
1, 2 & 3 John, No. 16
Holly Hills Bible Church
https://hollyhillsbiblechurch.org/teaching/messages/4926231487999

Transcribed from the recording by SermonAudio, so expect the occasional misheard word.

Today, we're going to go into what I call the second part of truth and falsehood. But it's interesting, I named these before we started the class. And I started looking through the material. It's not exactly that topic, but that's what I had down there. So I'll just have to go with that topic for right now. But I think we'll see pretty clearly what's happening here.

So actually, can I get someone to read? They can read from the overhead for your handout, just 18 through 20. We're going to skip over last week. lesson, we're going to go to 24 through 27, which is today's. So, if someone could read that, I'd appreciate that. You can read it from the Bible too, that's also good.

Children, it is the last hour, and just as you heard that Antichrist is coming, even now many Antichrists have appeared. From this we know that it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they were not really of us. For if they had been of us, they would have remained with us. But they went up so that it would be shown that they all are not of us. But you have an anointing from the Holy One and you all know. 20? And then down 24 through 27. Oh. Sorry.

Thank you for reading all this. As for you, let that abide in you which you heard from the beginning. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, you also will abide in the Son and in the Father. This is the promise which He Himself made to us, eternal life. These things I have written to you concerning those who are trying to deceive you. As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you. But as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him.

Great, thanks Winnie. Okay, today we're going to cover 24 through 27. And if you look, it has a little phrase called, let's see, where's my pointer here? I guess it's right there. This little phrase, as for you, occurs there, and then actually down in 27, as for you.

And that's what they call a U of sharp contrast. And it seems like it's focusing back up here to they went out from us. So it's contrasting you, the true believer in the Lord Jesus, with they who went out from you. They went out from us but they were not really of us and so on. We covered that. Actually Randy covered that part. So this part is really contrasting.

As for you, he's going to give instruction to the believers that have stayed with the Lord. He's going to encourage them. He's going to talk to them about what they had from the beginning when they first saw the Lord. He's going to talk about eternal life to them. He's going to talk more about the anointing they have from Him.

I was kind of thinking this last verse puts me out of a job here, right? But not really. You say, well, wait a minute, Roger. Read the last verse? Hey! Anyway. But we'll find out about that, hopefully, here in a bit. That's kind of setting the stage here, so I kind of have a bigger format. It was a bit redundant.

So let's just, we're going to start with verse 24. The first part of 24. 24a. It says, As for you, in sharp contrast to those who left, who were not really of us, let us abide, let that in you, which you heard from the beginning, I'm not even reading that right. Let that abide in you which you heard from the beginning. And actually the pronouns here are going to be very, very important.

And if you think back to what we had in John 1.1, what was from the beginning, that pronoun what, it's pretty important here. He's going to say, actually I rearranged it in the or part there. really if you put the subject verb and direct object in there would be, you heard what from the beginning? So what did they hear from the beginning? What did they hear about from the beginning? The very first part of John, the very first lesson we had, what did they hear about? Christ died. Okay, but what else? Didn't they talk about what we have seen, what we have heard, what we have touched? Remember that cool part that all those really wonderful verbs there that talk about I touched him? I see him, and I still see him in my mind's eye.

I hear him. It's ringing in my ear. So he's kind of looking back to that, I believe. And he's calling them back to remember what the Lord did for them. And then he says, there's a that in there. And that, I believe, also, I'm answering the question I'm going to ask you here. This is kind of not exactly the best question. I was going to ask what they refer to, and I'm telling you already. So let that, the Lord Jesus, abide in you. So he's saying, look back to what you had from the beginning. Let that abide in you. So it refers to the...

Actually, if you look at 1 John 1.1, probably in context, to be absolutely precise, you would say it's a word of life that would be what the pronoun is taking the place of. Pronoun takes the place of a noun, right? So to be absolutely precise, and actually I'm going to show that a little bit later on in the next chart here. Would you say that again, please?

Okay. what was from the beginning, if you look at John 1.1, what was from the beginning, what we have heard, then it says what we have seen, there's about four what's in there in that verse. It tells you at the end of that verse what the pronoun what is replacing, right? You could substitute word of life, the word of life was from the beginning, the word of life we have heard, the word of life So you can do that substitution, or you can go even farther if you're doing an expanded translation and put the word Jesus in there. I mean, because in the context you see it's the Lord.

So that's what I'm trying to say. There's these pronouns, the what and the that, or the which. The which is, I think it's down for readability, because it'd be kind of hard to read that if you said, let that abide in you what you heard from the beginning. It would read kind of strange. So the what, I mean, which is a better pronoun? And then heard is this word Akuo and it's in the Aris tense which is a past point fact and it's real.

So you heard as we saw in John 1.1, you heard what the Lord had to say in the past. You heard what he had to say and he's telling them to look back to that, to focus back on that. Any thoughts on that? We're going to kind of march through most of the verbs here. So let's go on to the... I had my expanded translation here. What I did exactly what I told you. I just substituted.

You heard the word of life from the beginning. Let the word of life abide in you. So I think that's what he's trying to drive home here. So abide is this word minnow in the Greek. It's the idea to continue to dwell, endure, be present. I remember how I had to be at home, to hang out.

We're going to see that really abide is really an act of faith. If you're abiding with our Lord and Savior, You can't physically be with him, but you can be with him by trusting in what he's done and trusting in his word. You abide in his word, abide in his teachings. So, a very familiar verse in John 15. Abide in me, and I in you, as a branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine, so neither can you unless you abide in me.

You know, abide is used by John at least 18 times between the Gospels and 1 John. So I thought it would be worthwhile just looking at a few of those occurrences. It's a pretty key word in John's teaching. So let's look back at the Gospel of John in chapter 5. And I think we'll learn a few things along the way as we look at these occurrences of how abide is used. John chapter 5, and let's look at, someone could read 37 and 38 in chapter 5. And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. And ye have not heard his word abiding in you. For whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.

Right, okay, so this is kind of a negative. He's kind of saying, you know, he tells them, they haven't really known the Lord Jesus. You haven't heard his voice in any time, nor seen his form, and you do not know, and you do not have his word abiding in you. There, sir. For you do not believe him who he has sent. So abiding is believing what God has done for us. Abiding in his word, believing what the word says. So in this case he says you don't have that. So that's a negative usage of that word.

So another occurrence is in John 8. Turn over a couple of chapters. John 8. Let's look at verse 31. Someone read that for us. John 8, 31. To the Jews who have believed him, Jesus said, you are bold to my teaching. You are really my disciples. Okay. Alright. So you have a... What translation do you have? I think it's New International. Okay. That's interesting. Okay. In the good translation... Sorry. I got it.

In this translation, the New American Standard says, Jesus therefore was saying to those Jews who had believed him. These are believers now. So it starts off, these are believers. If you abide in my word, then you are truly disciples of mine. So there's a connection again. Abiding in the Lord is believing what he's done. Trusting in what he's done.

Okay, let's go back to 1 John. I Know what you're saying and and there is there is a difference in in the and the message there in the Gospels But I think the word of abide kind of comes and I've been on that path before The word abide here it I think the meaning that we're trying to gather from this I think is you know it talks about that they have they have known who he was and I would agree that the Holy Spirit was not there and But in 1 John, you know, and that's kind of... They're saints, nonetheless. Right. I don't know that I would call them believers in the New Testament context myself, but they're definitely saints. They believed him. They believed his word. And in that sense, it's the same picture in the church age, too. I agree with you.

I think, and Vern's going to get to that. We're marching through the gospel, which I think is going to be really outstanding to kind of clarify that point. So let's look at 1 John, 1 John 4. Meryl, I hope I didn't zoom past your question there too fast. But that's a point taken. Let's look at 1 John 4 and let's read 13 through 15. 1 John 4, 13 through 15. And could someone read that?

I just know that we dwell in Him and He in us because He has given us of His Spirit and we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Savior of the world. Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in Him and He in God.

Isn't that wonderful, that mutual relationship? We abide in Him and He abides in us. That's just a tremendous truth about the believer and our relationship with Him. We have the Spirit of God in us. We're abiding in Him and the Spirit of God is abiding in us.

So basically, I think, you know, to kind of review the A part of the verse is that he's looking back, reminding them of what he taught in the first chapter, first chapter, first verse, about what they learned from the beginning, about abiding in the Lord, and he and you. So let's go on to the... So actually, this is a favorite picture of mine. This is from Hal, of course, and his... I think he called him Smedley. He had a name for this guy.

But anyway, it shows, abide is really, and you can actually, where it says abide there, you can actually put the word faith. What's driving our walk with the Lord is our faith. Either we're exercising faith in our new nature, or we're exercising faith in our sinful nature. So this abide, It's a key concept and it shows up many, many times in different passages, different situations.

So I thought this was helpful to me. I'm not going to go through the whole thing. I'm not sure I could do it quite as well as Hal could do it. This is supposed to be helpful. That's kind of for reference. Okay, so this is the B part and we're back to our pronouns again.

If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, you will also abide in the Son and in the Father. Remember last week, I was talking about if they had faith. They couldn't just say they had faith in the Father. The Father and Son are one. So faith in the Father and the Son.

This kind of comes back again, that same concept. So actually, this is a conditional statement here. So I kind of flipped around. Usually you do the if part first. I kind of like it this way, I think it makes it possible, a little bit easier to understand.

So it says, you also will abide in the Son of the Father, and the condition is, if what you heard from the beginning abides in you. So if you truly have trusted the Lord, And what you've heard from the beginning, you will be abiding in the Father and in the Son.

Where does that message kind of go through the entire set of verses here? And that's going to be very focused on the idea of teaching and what teaching you receive. He's going to point out that when you are abiding, you have the Holy Spirit teaching you, which is a tremendous... If you're not abiding, it's not really stated there precisely, but it's kind of implied that you will that will be something you'll be lacking.

And let's just look at a couple more verses here. There's a verse talking about the Father and the Son and how that they're one in terms of the believer. Back to John 14. I'm sorry, John 14, verse 23. Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words. And my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. I like the thing, make our abode.

You get a package deal when you believe in the Lord Jesus. You get the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit too. So that's key. You abide in the Father and in the Son. And that's where the heresy came along. They could say, well, we can just believe in the Father. The Father's okay, but the Son, I'm not too sure about that. I'll just exclude that. John says, no, you can't do that. You don't have true faith unless you believe.

Actually, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. But in this context, it's the Father and the Son. And then in John 17, 20 and 21, it says, I do not ask in behalf of these alone, but for those who believe in me through the word. and that they may all be one, even as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, and they also may be in us, that the world may believe that thou didst send me." So that's a wonderful amplification on that we're in the Father and He's in us. And it's the Father and the Son. All right, so let's go on. That's 24. Okay, and this is just, let's just go back. You know, with this if statement here, you have some choices in the Greek of what it means. Sometimes it can mean assumed to be true or a sense.

In this case, you know, you may not, you may not, be abiding in what you heard from the beginning. That may not be happening. If you're not doing that, then you won't be abiding in the Father and the Son. This chart here is from Daniel Wallace's Greek Grammar, basically just the four classes of conditional sentences. The one that we have here, it's a present condition, uncertain of fulfillment, but likely. It's likely most believers would be abiding, but it's possible you would not be. This is here for help, hopefully.

When I first read through that, it says, I cannot even talk to Christians. It's like somebody lost their salvation. Back to this one. losing is their fellowship. Exactly and remember that the focus here, thanks Jack, that's excellent, thank you so much. We're not talking about salvation, we're talking about fellowship and abiding is a key word for fellowship, right? Because it's whether you're exercising faith and what Christ has done for you and what his word has told you. If you're not doing that then you're out of fellowship, you're not, you will still be saved but you may be out of fellowship. Roger? Yes. Just a thought, you mentioned it briefly.

The word abide has that concept of being at home. Right. Or being comfortable with just resting. Exactly. When I see that word, I think of those words that Hal gave us about it. That we're at home with the Father and the Son. Don't you find abide so much more comforting word now you might say you know. I find that additional word, you know, there are several words that are synonyms, you know, faith, trust, you could put abide in that category. I think so. And they all kind of give different flavors to that and abide is so comfortable.

It's just like, well, Randy, I'm just going to sit down with you and we're just going to talk and we're going to work this thing out if we have, you know, whatever. It's so much better than saying, it's not a forced thing. It's something that you really look forward to. You want to do that. And that's what's coming across here. You're abiding in the Father and the Son.

When we walk into a room of non-believers, we're not at home there. Exactly. But when we walk into, using that picture, when we walk into believers, we're at home there. Absolutely. I think it's just marvelous how the Lord's given us all these different words and each one adds another piece to the puzzle of knowing Him and walking with Him. Okay, so now we go on to verse 25. This is actually kind of a neat verse. Actually, what's interesting is this verse in this translation, can someone else read their translation of verse 25? Marilyn, why don't you read yours? I was making you a hard time, I'm sure. I know, Roger. It's 3?

It would be 225. And this is what he promised us, even eternal life. Okay. Well, what I'm digging for here, actually the word promise occurs twice in the original, but you wouldn't, this is a promise which he himself made to us, eternal life. It's interesting, and you wonder, I mean, I'm not a translator, but fortunately I get a chance. And what's neat is, when you study the original a little bit, you can do that without a whole lot of, you know, there's so many helps out there. But anyway, the first phrase is, this is a promise. The second phrase, he himself promised to us. So it's actually promised is there, noun form is first. This is a promise. He himself promised, which is a verb, promised to us.

So it's actually in there twice. And the promise is, it's the eternal life, which is a wonderful promise. And that actually goes back, if you go back to the first, the second verse of chapter 1, 1 John, 1 John chapter 1 verse 2. You know, he talked about eternal life back then. And so he's, once again, he's focusing back. And the life was manifest, this is 1 John 1-2, and the life was manifest and we have seen and bear witness and proclaim to you the eternal life which was with the Father and was manifested to us. So he's looking back, he's focusing back.

So this he promised, he promised it to us. And promised is this word, basically the idea is to There's a little part, it's a compound word, epi, which is upon and to proclaim, to announce. And I think the last part, an undertaking to do or give something. So this is, God has undertaken to do something on our behalf. And basically what's interesting is, actually what's interesting, if you look at the tense of this verb here, it's It's a past point fact. Error is tense. Past point fact. It's a statement of fact.

Christ is going to perform the action. He is going to give us eternal life. And he asks us to have faith to trust what he has done. That's our part in it. But he has promised that he will give us the eternal life. I think that's really neat. So there's some other verses here. There's actually this verse right here. This is always, I think this is Courtney's favorite verse. I think this is his favorite verse. He's said it in the past a few times.

And I give them eternal life. I give eternal life to them. I'm not reading that right. And they will never perish and no one will snatch it out of my hand. So God is the one that's giving eternal life. And this really, I don't mean to... Unfortunately, there are folks out there that doubt that God can maintain their salvation. Verses like this, and there are others, really put a big hole in that.

Eternal insecurity. Eternal insecurity. If God is the one that promised it, He's the one that's executing it, He says, I'm not going to let it fail. It's not going to fail. You may think you have failed, but if you trusted Him, He's not going to let you fail. You will have the eternal life.

So that's a wonderful truth to hang on to. So there are a couple other verses that are good here too. This is the case for 1 John and the Gospel of John are so good, you can just keep going back and forth like a ping pong ball here. How about back in the Gospel of John chapter 6, Let's look at 6, Gospel of John 6, 647. Can someone read 647?

Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me hath everlasting life. Right. And that's actually in the present tense. He continuously has eternal life. And as we learn from John 17, eternal life starts when you believe in the Lord Jesus. And if you go down to verse 68, in the same chapter, So eternal life is a possession or something that comes from the Father.

He created it in a sense. He has promised it to us and He maintains it. So it's a wonderful truth that He asks us to believe. Yes, go ahead. Would it be proper to say that this is our Lord Jesus' life? I think that's really excellent. That's another kind of jewel to turn. It is. We have His life. His life is eternal. So our life isn't eternal, right? I think that's excellent.

Okay, so let's go on to... I'm just kind of marching through. Any other questions? We'll keep going. Okay, 26. Interesting, he's saying this expression we looked at last week. I have written, but this time he puts these things on there. And there's actually only a few, the number is less of that combination, these things I have written.

And the first one is 1 John 1.4, these things we write so that our joy may be made complete. And then My Little Children in 2.1, I am writing these things to you. so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. So he wrote about that his joy would be made complete, that they may not sin. And then we have our verse, which he's writing them concerning those who are trying to deceive them.

And then the last occurrence is in, we'll get to probably end of the year, 1 John 5.13.

These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life. So I think this is another tremendous verse. Maybe you doubt that you have eternal life. He said, I wrote these things so that you may know that you have that. So that you'll be settled down with that. You'll be at home with that. My grandmother used to say that it's blasphemy to say that you know you have eternal life.

She was just appalled that we would say that. When I showed her this verse, She had nothing to say. That's about as far as she took it. But her whole background was that way, that it was an affront to God. Right. Unfortunately she was not alone. There are groups of believers that feel it's presumptuous. And it's sad because if you look at God's Word, He says it. It isn't presumptuous.

He tells you, I wrote this for that very reason to tell you that you'll know you have eternal life. Just the opposite of what you can see man creeping into that. Man creeping his views into scripture and polluting it, if you will. Whereas God, it's clear that He wrote it so that you would know that you have eternal life. He doesn't want us to be ignorant. He wants us to be knowing that we have eternal life. Jack? What is that word, know, in there? In that one here, this case here? Oh boy, I'm thinking it's Gnosko. Gnosko is the one that you, is the experiential knowledge, and I actually don't have my...

It's experiential, I'm just trying to verify my notes. Well, the thing is, does your note have that? Well, that's my note. Well, that's okay. I'll take your notes being good. I didn't know if it was a hundred percent true. Well, I'm doing it from memory. I'm trusting your notes. It's good. Cause I, I think it's, that's correct by my absolutely sure.

The best way I don't have my, my Greek. He's asking if that, that no is Econosco. It's probably, I'm thinking it probably is, but, and Roy can, Donna can help us. Oh, it's Ido. Oh, it's not good. By experience. No, Ido is not, actually that's, actually it's not. That's actually the other one. There's two words for no. Oido. Oido, or Gdowsko. So, that's factual knowledge, which actually you could argue either in that case, but, you know.

So, Jack, if you hold that thought until we get to that verse. No, I just... Well, you know, in this case he's talking about, he's basically, these things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that, with the purpose that, you may know, that's factual knowledge, you may know that fact, the fact that you have eternal life, which I, you know, I can see it, you know, there's an aspect in which You've come to know that. I can see it both ways, but he's saying it's a fact. He wants you to know that fact, which is fine.

So, why don't I correct your note then? Okay, that's good. Isn't that even stronger then? You don't have to have any experience here. Hey man, that's good. Believe the facts, right? And that's what he asked us to do, to believe the facts. And so many times our, you know, Maybe our intuition or our... Emotions, there we go. Thank you. Our emotions might say otherwise. Okay, back to our...

He's concerned about these who are trying to deceive them. So basically the word concern is concerning or about those who are trying to deceive you. And actually it's literally the ones. So let's go on the next chart which is going to amplify it. Deceive is this word. This is an interesting word. It's to cause, to wander, to lead astray, to deceive. Actually, I hope I have this story right.

Correct me, you guys, science guys here. I believe what happened was the astronomers looked at planets and they said, these planets are moving around. They couldn't explain why they're wandering. They used this word, plano. They're wandering around and it turned out that it was the Earth's Earth's moving, not the planet moving. So they call them wandering stars or wandering planets.

That wasn't the case. It was the source that was inconsistent. So that's kind of the history of some of the background of that word, which is kind of cool. It's actually the word planet. English is the word planet. So they thought the planets were kind of moving around. Actually, it was their observation point was moving around.

I think that's correct. okay so it's a word to wander so he's warning them these things i have written to you concerning those who are trying to deceive you to make you wander to stray from the truth and another verse is little children make sure no one deceives you the one who practices righteousness is righteous just as he is righteous boy this is another one John just says, no funny business. The one who is righteous practices righteousness. You would expect that. If you're following what the Lord has taught, you will be righteous. And if you're abiding in Him, walking with Him, so this is like a litmus test, if you will.

And then, who's the number one deceiver? And the great dragon was thrown down, and the serpent of old, who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world. He was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. So the capital deceiver, the number one deceiver, is Satan. And then there's other verses in 1 Peter that talk about straying from the truth. We won't have time to cover those, but OK. So now. So to finish up here, hopefully we can do all this.

This verse is kind of cool. It's got a lot of neat parts. Like I said, this gets me out of a job here, I think. It says, As for you, the anointing which you receive from him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you. but as his anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, just as it taught you, abide in him." There's a lot to this verse.

So let's just try it. So kind of a summary is, the anointing, once again we're going to see, John just seems to like to do, he'll take phrases and that will represent something else. The anointing abides in you, You receive the anointing from Him. You have no need for anyone to teach you. You abide in Him. So that's kind of that verse broken down into four pieces. So we're going to look at each of those pieces. Actually, I didn't finish the rest of it. You abide in Him as He taught you. And actually, if you look carefully here, just as I put a person in there, it's just as it has taught you.

And the it, I believe, is referring to the anointing. As we're going to see, the anointing is really of the Holy Spirit. I think it's referring to the Holy Spirit there. So let's go on here. His anointing teaches you concerning everything and it's true and it's not a lie. So actually that's the full breakdown of that verse. Okay, so let's just go to the first part of this here.

Anointing is this word, actually literally, I was looking at J. Byrne McGee. It's an ointment. Anointing is just to smear on the ointment. You just put it on your But it's used in the Old Testament to refer to the Holy Spirit coming upon a person for a reason. But literally the word just means a salve, an ointment, an oil. But it's used in terms of the Holy Spirit coming upon a believer for the purposes of, in the Old Testament sense, for a certain purpose.

I like what Schaeffer had to say. The anointing of the Spirit is seen to be like the indwelling of the Spirit, a present fact in every believer's life. This verse I mentioned last week in 2 Corinthians. Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and anointed us is God. So again, God is performing the action. It's something that we receive when we believe. He performs the action and He maintains that action. He has anointed us for a purpose. To walk with Him, to abide with Him. There are several verses, we won't turn to them here, but this word anointing is used of the Lord Jesus.

In Luke 4.18 it says, anointed me Christ to preach the gospel to the poor.

Acts 10.38 says Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed him with the Holy Spirit and power. So anointing is for a purpose. And I think in this context we're going to see we've been anointed so that we may understand God's Word. We may understand what He said. I showed this chart last week. This is just kind of for information. Just that these are the many ministries of the Holy Spirit and one of those ministries is the ministry of He Anoints You. We're not going to really cover that. So let's just go on.

So as for you, the anointing which you receive from Him abides in you. So the anointing abides in you. You receive the anointing from Him. So abide here is in the present tense indicative mood. So therefore, The anointing is a present reality. You know, people have taken this for some kind of special spiritual sense, spiritual experience if you will. What says no, by the tense of the verb and stuff, the anointing is a present reality. You're continually anointed as you abide in Him. It's a reality in the believer's life. and you received it is the Aorist tense indicative move.

Therefore the anointing is a past completed action and is a reality for the believer. So it's a reality. Every believer, you don't have to be a special, have to feel special, or do you think, you know. Every believer has the anointing and it's a present reality in his life. Now whether he utilizes that is a different story. Whether he abides in that is a different story. But it's a present reality in a believer's life.

Here's another informational chart. You might think I'm overdoing it here. I had some of these charts from before. I just left them in. This is just of all the Greek tenses. I'm not going to go through it all, but basically the Aorist Tense states a fact. It's a past point fact. So anyway, that's just there for information for right now.

So let's just go on. You have no need. Now here's where we get down to the rubber meets the road here. You have no need that anyone should teach you. A need here is the idea that basically there's a need. Actually, let me go back just for one second here. Let's look at James for a second here real quick. James chapter 4. Could someone read James chapter 4? Verse 5, James 4, 5. Or do you think that the Scripture speaks to no purpose?

He jealously desires the Spirit which He has made to dwell in him. Right. So, and the reason I thought this was good, you know, we're talking about the anointing and it really, it closely is linked with the indwelling of the Spirit. So God has, that's His desire. The Holy Spirit and He has accomplished that desire. The Spirit of God, He has made to dwell in us. And that's His doing, His action. It's a past point fact. It's an Aristotelian past point fact. So that's key, that you don't get kind of hung up on the anointing as being some kind of experience. It's not. It's a present reality for the believer.

You've got to go a little faster for me. I went back here, I was back here working on this part, that's why I apologize. Well I was looking at my scripture and I was trying to read along with you and I kind of got lost. In James you mean? Or in this one? Yes, in James. Okay, let's go back to James then. 5? 4-5. 4-5, yeah. It says, or do you think that the scriptures speak to no purpose?

He, if you've got, jealously desires the spirit which he made, so God, he God, made it to dwell in us. So that's his, and he's jealous about it, which I think is kind of a neat thing. He desires that the spirit dwell in it. So in the same sense, I believe he desires that the anointing dwell in it.

And it does. The question is, will we, by faith, make use of that? OK. So we're talking about this need of teaching. Teaching is divasco. So actually what's interesting, all these verbs here are in the present tense. So we say this is hard to read. We surrenders this. And no need are you constantly having that anyone should constantly teach you. That's hard to read, I found. But the idea is that as you abide in the Lord, as you walk with the Lord, the Holy Spirit is in a mode of constantly teaching, constantly showing you Christ. So that's just really key. And I said, basically, why?

What do you think? Why do we need the Holy Spirit to do that? To keep us on the right track. Because, you know, Just think about the, you know, can we understand the things of God without the Spirit of God? There's a verse that talks about that. We can't do that.

We need the Spirit of God to be our teacher. Now, we also need, as it talks about in the church age, we need gifted teachers, right? There's a whole bunch of verses like in Ephesians. He gave us apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, teachers. Someone has said the Holy Spirit is the master teacher. And we're kind of the under-teachers.

So there's a need in the church age, and probably in all ages, for there to be human teachers, but the Spirit of God is the ultimate teacher. And he's the one, because we're talking about spiritual matters, you can't understand that without the Spirit of God.

I'm referring here to 1 John, the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you. It's one thing for us to abide in Him, but He's at home in us. That's wonderful. It is, actually. We talked about this duality, Christ and me. I'm in Christ and Christ is in me, but we're going to see that this anointing is in us too, and this teaching is within us. It works both ways. And He's at home. He's comfortable there. Exactly. And He would be.

If we have a new nature, which is Christ's very nature, He can be at home. Without that new nature, He could never be at home. That's why the unbeliever can never... We have the very nature of our Lord and Savior within us. So He can be at home with us. There can be that mutual relationship. We can be at home with Him and He can be at home with us.

It's mind-boggling. I mean, the God of the universe can be at home in us? You think. And you look at yourself and you say, I don't... From a human perspective, you can't see it. But from a divine perspective, from what God's Word says, it's true. You abide in Him as He taught you, as His anointing teaches you concerning everything that is true and is not a lie.

So this actually is a command. He's commanding us to abide in Him. And it's a reasonable command. If someone commanded, Roger be at home with my brother in the Lord, that's a wonderful command. And actually it's in John 15, it's his desire for the believer.

Abide in me and I in you, that way you produce fruit. As he has taught you, modifies. What's interesting is we're going to see here that you abide is kind of the, that's a command and then the rest of this falls underneath. As he has taught you, modifies the verb abide as his anointing teaches you also modifies the verb abide. So you're abiding and you can be taught. You can be available to be taught. His anointing will teach you. You're teachable if you will.

And that's it. Alright. Did we ever find out 1 John 5 verse 13 what Noah was? Oh, I know. It's what? It's not conosco. No, it's not conosco. Oida. Oida. Which means factual knowledge. That's right. It's a fact. More than it is an experiential. Right. That was a lot. I actually wondered if we could go through that. Other thoughts? Yeah, I've got a thought here.

I think of the other, let's say, believers, and they're raised in a different teaching, that you can lose your salvation. Now, I believe they're earnest believers, but they've been taught incorrectly, and they believe that. And I guess there's some scriptures that you can point to, say, if you you fall away. And they have taught to fall away, meaning you lose your salvation.

But it seems almost that, you know, the question comes up, if you're taught by the same Holy Spirit, why don't you arrive at the same conclusion? I don't have an answer. and be systematic about it, to observe, interpret, apply, and look at those things.

And there is a lot of tradition that gets passed around, just like the Jews had tradition in the Old Testament time. By the time you get to the time of Christ, there's these huge traditions that have been passed down. Even our translations have words that are translated this particular way because of the King James. copy some of the translations. So when you come to somebody, and I've talked to a number of people who come from a bunch of different backgrounds, almost never does it come down to them actually This is my own experience I'm telling you about, so that's not the absolute rule of things. But I run into, over and over again, if I say, okay, let's step back and observe interpretive blindness. Let's look at the Greek, let's look at the culture, let's look at the history, and then let's take a look at that and see what the context is.

That's difficult. But it's not the Holy Spirit that leads the division. That's the problem. I almost got fired from the Christian bookstore. I basically said to my boss, I said, truth is absolute. It's not possible for both of these positions to be right. us to truth.

But the other part of sanctification is that as we grow, that means we grow from a lack of knowledge to a knowledge. And so that's the other part of, that's why we need them, we need teachers. to come along. And that's God's plan. What's interesting is he presents these verses that say the Holy Spirit is your teacher, which he is, but then he also says in the church age I've given all these people to teach you, to show you, to explain God's word. So he says both. And what he's asking is, well how come, I had this session before, how come, why don't all believers come to the same conclusion? And that's a tough...

It's because we've been made in God's image to be creative and analytical. We can't just be one of those two. But if we're not analytically consistent, then we come to logical false conclusions. Because we started out in the middle of a theological discussion instead of the beginning of a theological discussion.

I've been wrong so many times. And I've had to have someone come alongside and say, Randy, you're wrong. At first that hurt a little bit. But it was one of those things where I was like, wait a minute, am I concerned about my ego, or am I concerned about the truth? And they almost always had to start earlier, because I had a misconception.

And we were discussing things, or I was speaking in a middle point of a theological construct, rather than going down to the beginning of what does scripture say, the beginning. And that's a difficulty. Well, it's hard to get everybody on the same page, because of just a variety of reasons. They don't want to, they have their own, you know, And they really don't want to study scripture. They want to do something else. So they want to follow some other creed. They already come in with, I'm going to follow this creed. And then they're going to make scripture follow that creed.

Rather than coming in and saying, what does scripture say? Just like Roy's point. He shows us, it was your mother you said, or your? My grandmother. Grandmother, right. Once he showed that, she had no, what could she say? God said, no, I've given you things that you may know that you have eternal life. Sure.

Well, if you look at non-Christian cult groups, if you ask them about the Observe, Interpret, Apply hermeneutics principle, they can't answer it. The Mormons can't answer it. The Jehovah's Witnesses can't answer it. They don't have an answer for these processes. If you're talking to a believer, If they haven't formulated a process, if they just kind of go, I go with what I think it means, then you have somewhere you can start talking about, well, let's talk about why we should have a consistent hermeneutical practice.

But the Mormons will just, like I had them come to my house and I sat down with them and I said, this is Observe, Interpret, Apply. I had a handout, a write-up. I gave it to them. They said, this is really cool. I said, okay, let's do this to the Book of Mormon. We can't. languages. We have no history, we have no culture, all we have is what Joseph Smith said. So I can't come to a different conclusion because I don't have any way to do so. You hear anything more, Pat? One other thing. You brought it up.

We've been given teachers. Okay, well I guess we need teachers. And then this says, we don't need teachers. It's an apparent contradiction. He's saying, wait a minute. But I think in the context of what God has revealed to us, He's saying, When you come down to it, the Holy Spirit is the one that's going to show you things. These teachers are going to point you that way. The Holy Spirit is the one who teaches. He uses teachers to teach us. and filter out that that's not based on God's will. And Gail said something in my ear here while you were teaching, she just said, we have the Holy Spirit, that's why we only come once a week. Because he teaches us every day. I agree with you. I mean, isn't it wonderful that we have that? I mean, otherwise, imagine without the Holy Spirit, you know, you'd have to... I agree. And he's given, according to Ephesians, to the church to equip us, to teach us, for the workers of the ministry.

Go ahead, I'm sorry. Well, just another idea is that The Holy Spirit enables me to listen to you and recognize truth. When I was traveling all around to churches and I would hear some things, there was something inside of me that said, that can't be true. So the Holy Spirit is also helping me understand what you know, what is true and what isn't true.

To sort that out, right, exactly. Randy, you have to set it for ten. No, that's an excellent point, and I agree with you totally. It is hard, I know that, when I talk about this, when you go to some, you visit a church, or if you're looking for a new church, and you go there, and you have to, in your mind, you say, no, that's not right, that's not right, and you're sorting it out, that's a, exhausting process because you're constantly saying no I don't think that's right and and you may not know the verse exactly but you you get exhausted doing that you say this is awful I'm just this might be a nugget of truth in there somewhere but boy you're it's hard to find it it's wonderful you come and Wait a minute, that is what Scripture says. I agree with what that pastor is saying or that teacher is saying. And it is so much more wonderful when there's an agreement with that. It's more peaceful, like you said, the home idea, abiding in your home.

Right, and that's what this picture is. It's this fellowship with the Lord. This is what 1 John is all about, this abiding. Okay, we better stop. We thank you, Father. We thank you for this day, Lord. Thank you for the marvelous truths that you have in your word. In Christ's name, Amen.