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We're on chapter, I'm sorry, Lesson 25, Chapter 7, verses 7 through 11. So we're going to text. In my class, when you get a text and your volume is on, you have to read the text. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Alright, let's read chapter 7, verse 7-11. What shall we say then? Is the law sin? May it never be. On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the law. For I would not have known about coveting if the law had not said, You shall not covet.
But sin, taking opportunity through the commandment, produced in me covening of every kind. For apart from the law, sin is dead. I was once alive apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin became alive and I died. And this commandment, which was to result in life, proved to result in death for me. For sin, taking opportunity through the commandment, deceived me, and through it killed me. So then the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good. Therefore, did that which is good become a cause of death for me? May it never be. Rather, it was sin, in order that it might be shown to be sin by effecting my death through that which is good, so that through the commandment, sin would become utterly sinful." So we got through the first two questions last week, and I know Doyle, you'll notice that we completely erased grace off the board. It's gone. We got nothing but law now. It's all law. We wanted to make sure, we'll come back to grace, don't worry.
Right now Paul's talking about law and what it is and what it isn't, right? So that's what we're talking about. So we started out last week, we wrote some things, chapter 1 through 6. not under law, verses 1-6, verses 7-13, sin's use of the law, and Jim actually gave us that title from the Bible he's reading from, I thought it was a really great way of looking at chapter 7, 7-13, sin's use of the law. What does sin do when the law is present?
Grace is left behind, meaning the law produces the enemy of grace, an enemy of grace. So we talked about that. The defeated believer, condemnation, no forgiveness, arousing sinful passions. We're going to get into that a little bit more today. We're on question number three. It says Paul gives two answers to the question, is the law sin? And what are the two answers? You will get that from verse seven. What are the two things that Paul gives an answer to with regards to, is the law sin? No, it's not. Certainly not. Certainly not. May it never be. God forbid. Right?
Why? Why is he so adamant about that? Why do you think? Why is Paul adamant about the fact that no, the law is not sin? Hadn't he been kind of dogging it this whole time? Or has he? Wake up. Well, it's righteous, and it's holy, and just, and it's perfect. We can't keep it, period. Can't keep it. So, the first answer he says, God forbid. It's not, the law is not sin. What's the second answer? That's what you just mentioned, I think.
If something shows you your sin, what shows sin? What's required in order for sin to be brought into the light? Holiness. And what is holiness? It's an attribute of God, right? What does it mean? Perfection. No sin. Set apart. One of a kind. It's written on the front of your Bible. Holy Bible. Set apart. One of a kind. Unique, right? And it's that unique, holy nature of God through the law that brings into light sin, right? And so Paul's answering in two different ways in this verse. Uh-oh, Russ. My new use of my iPad. Now it's locking me out. What am I going to do? We'll get back at it again. I might need some text support here in a minute. Actually, I'd probably ask my son for that these days. How do I do this again, Aidan?
The law that shows me sin in my life must be holy. The desire for what is forbidden is the first conscious form of sin. What do you think about that? The desire for what is forbidden is the first conscious form of sin. I don't think people are always conscious of it. I think it causes that reaction in us. people aren't generally aware, oh, this is sin, the first second they have the desire for the thing they're not supposed to, or whatever.
I think that's verse 9, isn't it? Did you have a thought? Yeah. What the law does is it spells out specificity of sins, exactly what they are. Up until the time that the law shows up, I can be sinning, but really not be aware that what I'm doing is a sin until the law says, well, don't do this or do this. Is sin still present? Yeah, it's there, but there's no catalog.
I think the context of what Paul's dealing with here is important to take into note. I mean, we don't think of it... I mean, we're not under law. We've never been under the law, mosaic law. And so, how do we relate to these things? Because Paul's talking to, you know, Jewish believers and unbelievers as well, and obviously the Romans, and there's this idea that, you know, you used to be one of the foremost proponents of the law, and now, here we are, talking about the fact that, you know, the law is the law of sin, and he's saying no, and I'm not saying that, but that's what he was being accused of, is bagging on the law in such a way that, hey, you just jumped ship.
You used to be saying this, now you're saying this, and he's saying no. The law has a different relationship to me now, but the law is not sin, God forbid, may it never be. It's rather that the law is holy and it shows me my sin, but now I'm not under it anymore. And that's where he's moving to. And so, he's definitely dealing with those, I can imagine, each of you being conflicted with the fact that, hey, I used to preach one thing and now I'm preaching another and so now I'm having to communicate to you the change in my life that's happened as I've come to know the Lord Jesus and what the Lord Jesus and that relationship has done to my relationship with the law. And we often use the term law as a principle, and we definitely can see that here, it applies. But he's definitely referring to the Mosaic Law in terms of, you shall not covet. And now all I want to do is covet. That's what it does.
And so coming to question number four, what is the reason that law produces uncontrollable sinning? So you were sinning, you were a sinful human being, and all of a sudden I start telling you, you know, you shouldn't come. Now what happens? Gas on fire, isn't it? Almost brought in a little butane torch today. Yeah. I think it's interesting right here that Paul was a Pharisee of the Pharisees, a law keeper and zealous.
And why didn't he have this kind of dilemma in those times? And I think the reason is that when he's saved, he becomes spiritually alive. And he begins to see the law from a spiritually alive standpoint rather than just a statute to make a man righteous before a holy God, as best they could understand.
The law now is not just a system of do's and don'ts, now it's spiritual, which means it's on a whole other level of understanding because it's God's law. So before it was very much a behavior thing, and now it's become a deeper spiritual thing. Yeah. And he understands now that probably way more than he did before, that the law, because it's God's law, it depicts him. And he was OK with striving to achieve legal status before God or righteousness. But now that he's spiritually alive and he's finding out that the law is a spiritual thing and not just a statutory thing, He's beginning to realize there's way more depth to this than he ever thought there was before. I think you're right.
Does that happen to us? Have we experienced some of the same things that Paul did in that way? How? You don't remember your parents communicating Christian truths to you and you wanting to obey them and wanting to do the right things? And then all of a sudden, it becomes spiritually deep at a point in time in your life. I can remember when it was like, hey, this is what it means to be a Christian. It looks like this.
And I gotta make sure I get up early on Sunday morning, unlike the heathens, and drive myself, you know, or get to church. That was the thing. If I could just get there, I would have checked that box off for the week. You know what I mean? Let's get to church. And then, you know, in the Baptist church it was very much about Okay, we got a re-commitment this morning. I gotta make sure that I'm ready for my re-commitment.
Do you remember that? Anything like that? Where you're checking boxes off? What's that? Never went to a Baptist church. No, but do you remember something similar where there was these principles of Christianity that you're like, this is what I do. What about...
Here, go ahead. Yesterday's Hungry Heart. One of the things, we're not to overcome the lust of the flesh in order that we may walk in the spirit. We are to walk in the spirit in order that the lust of the flesh may be overcome. And 99% of the time we do it backwards. That's really interesting. Does that make sense? I don't know where this fits in this.
I just got Romans 5.13 in my brain right now.
Sin was in the world before the law. But sin is not charged to a person's account when there's no law. He's talking from Adam to Moses. They didn't have the law, so they didn't realize how bad their sin was, but boy, they were just morally rotten. Totally. And what's the word we use for when sin is committed underneath the law? How does Paul refer to that?
Transgression. Trespasses. Transgression. Prior to that, sin was in the world. You're exactly right. And it was abounding. But they weren't transgressing. They weren't transgressing. Because they didn't know the law. But they were still just morally rotten. They were still dying too. Death is the evidence of sin. So they were dying. What about after the fact that Lord Jesus came, fulfilled the law, Is there trespassing after Christ? Transgressions? Or is it sin abounding again? Well, if you're a Gentile and you've never been under the law, how could you transgress it? Right. That's my point.
Another aspect I think here is that you notice where Romans 7 is positioned in Romans It's after salvation. It's after recognizing that I have a standing before a holy God. I have access to him. It's after I begin to... I'm presented with the idea that sin came into the world by one man and it passed upon all men and I'm one of those men. And grace. And then it's after my being informed that I was identified with Christ's death.
Yeah, I've already died, been buried, been baptized, so maybe it gets into the law. The point that I'm making is this, that as you progress through the book of Romans, if you don't ever understand Romans 6, then it's very easily to be under a movement because I think identification is the thing that makes the law spiritual to you. It's the doctrine that says you're no longer in Adam, you're now in Christ and being in Christ is a whole different standing that you have and here's how you got there and the law doesn't apply to the man of Christ but I'm going to bring it in anyway. If I don't have that understanding And I can very easily try to live under some sort of modified law system. Take commandments, some favorites from Leviticus, maybe. Or I could discount the ceremonial law and say, well, I'm going to live under the moral law. Whatever the covenant reform guys do. a person like that would not really have an appreciation for what Paul is talking about right here.
Yeah, I think you're right. Here, you're saying that the strength of sin is the law. That's the key here. In verse 8, sin taking opportunity through the commandment, producing me, coveting of every kind. I mean, I heard, you know, you shall not covet. It got a lot stronger in my heart. Now that's what I want. Because that's sin taking the opportunity through me. Sin feeds on the written law. It feeds on it. And I think that that's the product of misunderstanding the relationship of the law to the believer. Is that it simply is gas on the fire. It arouses sinful passions.
It produces I just think going back to what that hungry heart was, I think this is why I like chapter 7 of Romans, because it really identified, you were saying, how do we do it today? And I think we do do it today, and we do exactly what he is figuring out here, that it's not by effort, it's not that we have to clean it up to be spiritual. We're supposed to be spiritual so that we can. And that's what I said, I think the mix-up of a lot of people, maybe reform and all that, is that we've got to clean our act up. by ourselves so we can please God or be happy. And, you know, again, the sequence that we have here, you know, all through Romans is 101, you know, from we're all sinners to justification, then identification. Now, here's Paul, who's, you know, a great, one of the great ones of the law, saying, I'm trying to do it on my own, and he can't. And so that's, I think that's really relevant to today because people, you know, it's even like a lot of people, I can't come to know the Lord until I clean my act up.
Right. No. And now, you know, I have to clean my act up in order to be spiritual. Right. No, you are spiritual and your reliance upon the spirit is what... It's backwards. Yeah, that's why I love that part of the hungry heart. It's backwards to human nature.
What the said nature would desire of us is to, let's get in order so that we may please God. And no, we don't get in order to please God. We are pleasing to God, and that is how He, once we operate by faith in that truth, He produces that life in us.
It's not the other way around. And it applies to every single commandment. Whether it be lust, or covetousness, or whatever it is, We're not supposed to do that to please God, right? He does it. Or we don't overcome it by ourselves. That's the key here, too, is that it's not by ourselves. We can be wanting to do it, just like Paul. I want to do it, I want to do it, I want to do it.
But what is the final answer? It's funny, all the effort that Christianity would have us being busy about doing is backwards in the sense that we rest first. And from that, we may be very busy people, but it's because we're walking in the very works that He's produced prior to us ever even having known about them. We're walking in them because we're trusting Him to do the living through us.
And that's just something that's counterintuitive. You can't know that without the Scripture. You would never come to that conclusion on your own. Every moral and ethical system in the world is the exact opposite of what we just talked about. I mean, think of one. I don't know, Islam? You're definitely not resting. You're definitely not identified. It's not Allah that's doing the living through you.
Buddhism, that's a busy thing too. You're busy trying to achieve a state of nothingness. And you've got to do it really hard. I mean, Mormonism, goodness man, sometimes they're super busy. If anybody deserves like a big badge for busy, they're pretty busy. And they take off a whole year of their life to do mission work. And they're out on the streets, they beat them. No, it's not the way that Romans describes the life of a believer.
So, question number five. How is the law a teacher? Aidan? How is the law a teacher? What does it teach us? I just wanted to say your name. You look like you're about to fall asleep. I'm just kidding. I was a law teacher. Let me ask you this. Do you have calm periods of life? Maybe you're going through a storm right now. Maybe you've got a storm of a life. I mean, we prayed for those this morning. Some of them have storms. There's periods of both, calm and storm. What is the sin nature present in both those periods? How does it function in those periods? Is it maybe less inactive during the call? What happens when the storm hits? What does it say in nature? It depends on yourself first. Okay. What do you mean?
Well, I'm not going to turn to God unless I'm out of all other options. Ah, that's interesting. That's honest. I can't believe you said that. It's self and the world. That's how people are naturally. You want to get it done, you think you must. Okay. And then all of a sudden, the storm kind of pokes you. And what happens? You run out of options.
You mentioned it. It's like a sleeping lion. Sin nature, and the law is that stick that pokes the lion. Right? And all of a sudden, sin is stimulated to a massive degree in your life. And that's what Paul is talking about here. And what does it teach you? How is the law a teacher? That's the question. What does it teach you?
It shows you that you're insufficient. Insufficient. Do you guys agree with that word? Why is Paul wanting the believer to know that they are insufficient? And that the law produces that knowledge. Is that pretty important to the Christian life? Yeah? What do you think? Yes. What happens in your mind as far as what God can do for you and turn to Him. I mean, is it a last resort? It should be as a first resort.
It's all about I, I, I, I, I, I. I can do, I can, I can, I can. And then Paul's sitting here saying, no, the law teaches you not I. Not I. Yeah. Well, you know, I think, again, just what he says here in 7, I wouldn't know coming to this until the law told me. So it teaches you about your sin nature, and then, as he goes through 7, the realization that you cannot do anything in and of yourself.
And then, the last part is, it tells us that it's a teacher. In Galatians 3, it says, the law is a tutor, pointing us to Christ. But then what happens when Christ is here, no longer needed? Again, we're dead to the law, and we're not under the law. But again, it points to our need of something besides ourself.
It takes you by the hand, that word tutor is interesting, it takes you by the hand, walks you right up to the statute and says, here's what you're doing and you're guilty of it. Yeah? I think people gravitate to the law because they think there's security in it. That if I do, I'll be secure.
And what the law is doing here is teaching us that the law is the impetus of death. then it blows the security blanket. I don't have any security under the law and that's how it teaches me. It shows me there is no security in the law. Because all it does is lead to my death. And I'm always looking for security. Where is our security?
If it's not the law, where is it? In the Lord. It's in a person, isn't it? It's in a person. A little different. In verse 8, what is the real sin? So question number 6. In verse 8, what is the real sin? So 8, but sin taking opportunity through me, through the commandment produced in me, coveting of every kind. For apart from the law, sin is dead.
Aren't we told that it's okay to desire? Isn't it okay to have my desires, to want to improve, to whatever the desires may be, it's alright to have them? Yeah, as long as you don't do the sin. You can think about it, but don't do it. The point here, I think, is the fact that the very thing The very lifeblood of the sin nature is desire. And the law says you can't desire. And as soon as it says that, what does the sin nature do? Cause desires. So it doesn't really matter what you desire, it's the fact that you do. Something you don't have. Something that you want. Yeah. I mean...
That's pretty subtle, Max. It's subtle and also like it affects every single moment of my life. I mean, if I were worried about every single one of my desires, and the law is producing gas on the fire for each of those desires, how do you live? What's life like? Simple passions, constantly. All day, every day. Sure.
There's no rest in that. You would think that Paul would have come up with this particular sin out of the commandments, but he doesn't. He comes up with the very core of what the sin nature does. Cut. It desires. You shall not. You shall not desire. Which means that the sin nature only desires for itself. to gratify itself.
Yep. The simple nature uses the laws of fulcrum by which to pry itself loose from its relative inactivity into activity. I like that. Fulcrum. Pries it loose from being relatively inactive. Storm hits, whatever the case. Boom. Let that boulder roll down the hill now. And that's what it does. It just rolls and rolls and rolls. for sin taking that opportunity through the commandment. So what's the real sin? Desire. Evil desire. All the sin nature could ever desire.
You guys familiar with that? Why are you laughing? Because I'm familiar with it. Yes sir. And I think that's the point. I think the key is also evil desire. I think on the spiritual man, we desire the Lord. You know, as a focus on the spiritual of the new man is to desire the Lord, the union with him, the intimacy with him. I think the key is the evil desire. It's the covenants of self. You know, let's talk about the old man. And again, why does it flourish? Because that's the only thing the old man can do right now. is to make you fall back under evil desires or laws, or what you can do in yourself, or all focus away from the Lord, the desires away from the Lord, down the evil part, I think.
But I think as the new man in me desires the What does the sin nature do with desire? It can dress it up and make it look a lot of different ways, but at the end of the day it's evil and it's very hard. Would you say then that if I have a desire to be a well-rounded, well-recognized Christian, it's an evil desire? Or what if I have a desire to be a biblical scholar? Well, I think it's interesting.
As a believer, we're going through this process that Paul's talking about. When we read the commandments, even those that are principles in the New Testament, we read them and all of a sudden we think, oh God, help me to do that. I mean, that's where we start off as babes, right? And the whole point of this is to teach us that we are not capable We're not the ones that are supposed to be doing that in the first place. We're supposed to be operating by faith and the one who can. And that takes a lot of time. We talked about time as a tool.
The Lord uses it to teach us that not I, but Him. And so the desires of an early believer to be a well-rounded Christian may be an honest and a rightly placed desire. But what you will learn as you go through and mature in the Word is that becoming a well-rounded Christian is not the end result that Christ has in mind for you. He's conforming you to the image of Himself, not making you more well-rounded as a believer, right?
Yeah, I think it's all focus. Is it because I want to, oh I, and the focus is on me and what I want to become, or I want. that I can be a well-rounded Christian, I'm already complete in Christ. There's no additional. So when I say I want to be a well-rounded, oh, I want to, what is the focus of that? Where is your focus? Where is the focus? I've always said, like in mine, I want to learn so many verses because I want to be that Christian that knows the verses.
Totally wrong motive. So, in essence it is. It's an evil desire, but I think God uses that for the believer to show them the inadequacy of themselves. And that's really what the law does, is it produces a knowledge that you wouldn't have known before. Does that make sense? Does that make sense, guys?
Are we tracking so far? A lot of repetition here. We're covering it from almost every single angle. That's what Paul's doing. You know, I mentioned, I think Russ last week, repetition is the key to learning. And that's what he's doing here. He's going over the same thing multiple times. It's almost just kind of like, I'm pounding it in guys. You got to get this. You know, this is important. Paul does that. Paul does that. And always writing. Yeah. And we should do it too. We try to. You know, repeat.
Look at it from just another angle because it takes time for our fogged brains to let it sink in. It also takes different angles looking at the subject. I used to sometimes have to explain a new math concept to little kids in ten different ways. Because they don't understand it the first six ways or whatever. And they have to understand it. There's nine up here, all are saying basically the same thing here. But Paul is, that's right, it's just like that math concept, and I was that student. It's like, you're not getting into this brain until you get into that tenth concept.
Or they give you the whole picture all around. You look at it in different ways. You do, you have to look at it in different ways, and that's what Paul's doing. So question number seven, what does it mean, apart from the law, sin is dead? I think, who was it that was talking earlier this morning? I think it might have been you. I don't know. Somebody mentioned this morning. Oh, it was you. We were talking about sin versus trespass. So, Paul had a situation in his life where he was not familiar with the law. Right? Did he? Or did he just pop right out and be like Pharisee of all Pharisees? young, but probably not, you know, when he was one or two. Right. Not one or two.
So apart from the law, sin is dead. So suppose a man determined to drive his automobile to the very limit of its speed. If, as is not quite yet done, signs along the road would say, no speed limit, the man's only thought would be to press his machine forward. But now suddenly he encounters a road with frequent signs limiting speed to 30 miles an hour. The man's will rebels, and his rebellion is aroused still further by threats. Speed limit strictly enforced. Now the man drives on fiercely, conscious both of his desire to speed and his rebellion against restraint. The speed limit signs did not create the wild desire to rush forward. That was there before. But the notices brought the man into conscious conflict with authority. From apart from the law, sin is death. You ever feel that way? You've ever sped? I had to take the breaks this morning.
Popo sitting on the side. I was like, whoops. But then you get past him and what do you want to do? Just get up a little more. I don't think it's getting past the sign. It's getting past the congested traffic. You know, if it looks all clear, I want to go. Uh-huh. I mean, why not? There's no one there. You don't have to be careful of the traffic. That's right. Well, that answers question number seven.
Don't think of a pink hippopotamus. Right now. Whatever you do, don't do it. Aidan? Do not. I mean it. No matter what happens, don't think of a pink hippopotamus. The big one. The big pink one. Don't think about it. Mike? Are you thinking about a pink hippopotamus? Maybe. You were able to avoid it, huh? Yeah. There's no big pink hippopotamus in your brain. I was just thinking.
Sin has no means of springing into life. As sin apart from law, it is dormant, it is dead. Every impulse of the flesh, the old nature, old natural life is sin. Take desire or coveting, who is to know that this inward universal natural desire is sin? Till the law says to the conscious, thou shalt not covet. Apart from the law, sin is dormant. It lies sleeping. Law comes along and pokes that line and all of a sudden it's roaring. Question number eight.
Why can't I just exercise my strong will to obey God's commandments? It's not strong enough. Oh, come on. You're a pretty spiritual guy. You get up and read the scriptures in the mornings and I feel like you got this. Not strong enough. Not strong enough? Is any human will strong enough? Sin's always stronger. Evidently not. Man, that is a hard thing to accept. Could we say the only thing stronger than sin is grace? Say it one more time? The only thing stronger than sin is grace?
Yeah. It's the environment in which the Lord brings about his life through us. It can't be produced in a law environment. Not at all. Yeah, but I got a renewed will. Why won't that work? Yeah, you did. Did you get a renewed will? Yeah, when I was saved. You got a new will.
And how does it operate? It has only one purpose. What is it? I know the answer. What's the only purpose of the renewed will of the new man? What's the one purpose? What is it to do? Believe. All it does, it relies on the one who can. The power always resides in the indwelling Holy Spirit.
Not in yours. Okay? Do we agree? Or does somebody want to give it the old heave-ho? Call it the bootstrap mentality. I'm going to pull myself up on my bootstraps and just get it done. Well, that's all we can do. God takes it from there. He has the power to do the rest. That's right. And we have to depend on that. That's interesting. We rest. He has the power to do the rest.
Would you say it's improper to ask God's help in overcoming sin? This is something I've dealt with quite a bit, and I've talked to kids about it as well, and even my folks, but it's the wrong focus, isn't it? I think as a young believer or someone who's uninformed about some of these truths, it's not an evil thing or it's not an incorrect desire to want the Lord to help you in the sense of if you don't understand how it works, you're trying to rely on God in the best way that you know how. So I don't tend to slam down the scripture on someone who's thinking that way or operating that way.
But there does need to be some education through the Word about His life. We rest in Him. We trust in Him. We believe. We operate by faith. So all those synonyms, all the things that the will is designed to do in resting and trusting in Him, and then He is producing it.
And He never kind of like, hey, let me give you a little help. Let me show you what to do here and what to do there. That's not the way the Christian life is lived. But there are many that think that way and just still haven't come into some of these even elementary truths.
So how does fight the good fight of faith fit into that? Well, that's it. The last word is the point. Faith is a fight. It's an all out, knock down, drag. So can you ask the Lord to help you believe? It's your... It's not His belief. Help me believe? That's your job. That's what God wanted to do. He wants to live His life through us, not help us to live His life. And He doesn't want to help your faith. No. It's your faith. That's why you have a will. The only reason...
Isn't the Holy Spirit the helper? He absolutely is the helper. Asking the Lord to help me believe would be asking something that he's already done. He's already produced that opportunity for you. Yeah, well I'm growing, like growing the grace and knowledge. Yeah, well you do grow. By faith. Right?
Number nine, what did Paul mean when he was alive once apart from the law? What did Paul mean that he was alive once apart from the law? I think that's what we're talking about. And he wasn't born. He didn't pop out with the law written on his heart that way. What do you guys think? All right, one more minute. Well, I think he thought he was alive, but he wasn't really alive. Was he?
No. He was just saying that because the law produced in him death, the contrast to that was, before I knew this, He's just saying that I was alive in the sense that once I knew this, it produced complete and total death. Right? So it's the use of the contrast of death and life. But not in the same way, these words are not used in the same way that he would use spiritual life. Right? Oh man. I have two more. Alright. Next week. And who's up next week? We don't know. We don't know. Okay. It's a mystery.
Father, how we thank you for just to live in this age of grace and to recognize these truths that what the law does and how it wakes up the sin nature in such a way that it just roars like a lion. Lord, we know that that is not the life that is meant for us as believers.
We have the peace and the joy that comes with resting and operating by faith and a focus on you rather than ourselves. and that you produce in us your very life. And so we thank you for that work. We thank you that you're busy in that way and that we can trust you to do that. We just pray for the rest of the week and the upcoming second hour and just the very scripture that will be taught there in Galatians. We pray for continued growth and understanding in that book as well. We just thank you again for all that you've done, for your love and for your grace. It's in your name we pray. Amen.