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Alright, so we are in lesson 11 in the Timothy class, 2nd Timothy. The verses we're going to go over is chapter 2, verses 23 through 26. So in those, our passages 23 through 26, I always like to try and get the context so we don't just parse out this and how it fits within the section of scripture. that we're looking at. So I'm going to read 20 through 26 just to get the context. We've been through it. JD has been through the verses 20 through 22. So starting in verse 20 of 2 Timothy chapter 2.
Now in a large house there are not only gold and silver vessels, but also vessels of wood and earthenware, some to honor and some to dishonor. Therefore, if anyone cleanses himself from these things, he'll be a vessel for honor, sanctified, useful to the master, prepared for every good work.
Now flee from youthful lusts and pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace with those who call on the Lord from a pure heart." So those went over the two different vessels and what they meant. and then to flee from the youthful lust and pursue those things, righteousness, faith, love, and peace.
Now we get into kind of the warning side. But refuse foolish and ignorant speculations, knowing that they produce quarrels. The Lord's bondservant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition. if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth. And they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will."
So it kind of had all the vessels of honor and dishonor, kind of the two different sides. Now we're getting into kind of, again, Paul's warning to Timothy. And this is in keeping with what he gave to Titus and what he's already given to Timothy about staying away from those distractions, those people who are not following the word and not following what Paul had taught him. So, this is again the warning sign.
So, in question one, Describe where the foolish and ignorant speculations have their source. So, in verse 23, but refuse foolish and ignorant speculations, knowing that they produce quarrels. So, from this verse, where do the speculations come? Or maybe better yet, who do the speculations come from? Oh, that's harsh. That's a hard way to start the class. I expect that from Mike. That's a new one for you. And Wayne being the target.
You may not get out of the parking lot. So where do they come from? Who do they come from? Right there in the endiverse. Come on, it's not that hard of a question. This was the easiest question so far. Where do they come from? Do I need to read it again? But refuse foolish and ignorant speculations, knowing that they produce quarrels. Where would they come from? What type of people? Maybe I'll make it easier. Foolish. There we go.
Foolish and what? ignorant okay so uh... we have the uh... uh... foolish and ignorant they're the ones who provide this information so but refuse foolish and ignorant speculation so it's coming from a source that is foolish and ignorant so what is foolish mean foolish what is foolish mean you know what I'm going to do too of course So you get the first crack at it before Webster. So what does foolish mean? Opposite of wise. Opposite of wise. I know, I've tried. This is just not working. I'm going to really crank it. You have to duct tape it to me. I do have a paper clip in my briefcase. Maybe it's because it's dragging behind me here. All right.
So what does foolish mean? The antonym is smart or whatever, so foolish. If you're a foolish person, what do you do? It's kind of hard to come up with it, seeing what's going on in politics today. What's a foolish person do? Stupid things. Not wise. A wise the contrary is unwise. So our good buddy Webster came up with having or showing a lack of good sense, judgment, or discretion. So I think a lack of judgment, I think. Yeah, I think that's a good one. Maybe lack of good sense would fit in this one. The Greek word is moros. And what do you think our English word is? Moron. You're a moron, which is a foolish or somebody who does not have good sense. So the Greek word is, yeah, silly, stupid, foolish, from which the English word moron is derived. Then we get from the Zodiates. I think this was kind of an interesting one. There's another word. It is more serious.
It's a more serious reproach than raka, which is another one. which scorns a man by calling him stupid, whereas Moros scorns him concerning his heart and character. So this is, you know, you can be kind of a foolish, ignorant, or foolish person, lack of sense, but this one comes from the heart. Your heart's off. Your purpose is off. And it's different than just being, you know, I didn't know how to do a math problem, you know, whatever. This is from the heart. It's something that you are just, you're just wrong in your sense of, you know, God's word in this sense, but you just, it's coming from a wrong heart.
And that's what I thought was kind of interesting from the Zodiac, the Zodiac's definition of it, that it comes from, you know, a wrong sense of your heart, not just you're stupid or, lack of sense. So I thought that was kind of an interesting one. Could it come from lack of maturity?
Could be. Like a truce. You know, children sometimes. Well, it's almost the other. It's the opposite. Because a child would do it out of just didn't know. This one's more out of a heart purpose. You know, Zotiotis seemed to say that it's out of a heart purpose. You're just, you're willingly almost disregarding the knowledge. You're willfully going against it. So maybe the difference in evolution and creation. I mean, the evolutionist wants to believe something other than what...
Oh, I see. Yeah. I was thinking about that because, you know, what men call wisdom, God often calls foolishness. Yes. Right. This is not necessarily foolish from the world's perspective, but from God's perspective. But again, I think the real key in this one, and I'm just keying off what Zodiac, it's a purposeful one. It's your heart is wrong. You're purposely, you may know what the truth is, but you're going against it. You know the truth, but I'm gonna go the other direction. Do you think Timothy was in a situation possibly where he had the right answers? But maybe rushed to the game a little bit with it.
I think he's no I think there's more warning to other people I don't think it's to him him personally. I think this is a warning to it. You know the the verses avoids avoid Let me get back up there, but refuse you Timothy Refuse foolish and ignorant speculations, so I think this is a warning to avoid those people I don't think he's saying saying that it's Timothy is doing well.
He also told told him in 22 to I flee from the youthful lusts, and those are desires, right? So those are, they're not... Yeah, that may be more on, you know, the warning that, you know, you're young. Because remember Paul said don't, don't let them, you know, put you down because you're young. So I think maybe you flee from you, Timothy, and us.
Flee from, you know, being a babe or young or, you know, maybe, maybe those youthful thoughts. I was just thinking about how, for myself, sometimes I, just would rush into a conversation. And there was no wisdom in how I necessarily approached it, because I was just excited about what I knew. And sometimes that can be considered foolish in the approach of just not necessarily an age, but in where I was with my excitement about it.
So you think Paul is giving Timothy the warning that he's foolish? No, I think he's warning him about rushing in to foolish and ignorant conversation. Yeah, I took this more as Timothy warned you. You don't take foolish and ignorant speculations. That seemed more like rather than him. But in all respects, this is a warning to us. I think so, for sure. by, you know, logic, it would apply to Timothy too. Well, and I think Paul is trying to say these kinds of actions will produce quarrels. They will result in the output of nothing that will promote the truth of God's word within the body of Christ. Right, which we'll get to the results of doing it, but So now we're just definitions here again.
So what does ignorant mean? You're ignorant. He's saying refuse ignorant speculation. So an ignorant person. What is an ignorant person? In that case, they don't know. Don't know. Yeah, this one I think is more... Right. That's why I was trying to bring the difference between the foolish, which was, from the Greek word, was more of a, you know, a heart-directed one.
This one is, you just don't have the knowledge. And so, these are people who just don't know. They're either foolish, and they have a kind of a malatent intent, and now we're talking about people who just don't know. and they're giving wild speculations. So my good buddy Webster comes up with ignorant. I like this. Destitute of knowledge or education. Destitute. You are without. You're on a desert island without knowledge. Resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence.
The other one is unaware or uninformed. But all of those apply. So again, two speculations. One comes from somebody who is just wildly from a bad heart, bad direction, giving speculations, these speculations. The other one is just somebody who just has not a clue.
And they're saying stuff that has no basis, and they're just yapping. So there are two different things, aspects, that Paul is warning Timothy about. The Greek word for the ignorance is, sorry Tim, Miles, my pronunciation of Greek words, ap-i-de-o-tus, which means unlearned, untaught, ignorant, stupid, foolish.
Zodiatis adds, only in 2 Timothy 2.23 referring to nonsensical, i.e. inept, trifling, absurd disputations. So again, you just don't know. And you're saying stuff that you don't have a clue about, and you're trying to tell Timothy or give Timothy or the body bad information from ignorance. Don't know what you're saying, and you're just yapping.
So that's what Paul is giving us the warnings for. Also, I think from Mike's notes, these questions or speculations come from those of an untrained mind carried away with novelties. They were questions that did not come from any trained habit of thinking. Yeah, that alpha at the beginning of the word is without, so it's like without training or without instruction.
So, again, the first thing he's doing is refuse. So he's refused these foolish and ignorant speculations. So how is Timothy to know, question two, How is Timothy to know or discern foolish questions? How's he supposed to do that? How does he know that it's an ignorant speculation or it's just silly, foolish? How's he supposed to know that?
We go back to the analogy we've used a hundred times here. If you're a bank teller, And you have to figure out if it's a phony $100 bill or not. Do you know all the fake ones? Is that what you do, is learn the fake ones? You learn the real one. So you know when a fake one comes through, you know that's a counterfeit $100 bill. So the key is knowing the original. Same here, you need to know the truth to refute foolish and ignorant speculations.
So, from 1st Timothy and definitely in 2nd Timothy too, what has been Paul's main thing he's been instructing Timothy about? He's been doing this all the time. Like Timothy and also Titus too. Same thing. And these are the pastoral letters. I think that There was so much talk that was spreading amongst the church, and he names two individuals there He goes on to talk about how it's like gangrene it spreads and so there there were conversations just like whispers mm-hmm that were going on around in this case the resurrection and and that had already taken place, and it was upsetting the faith of them. And so Paul, he encourages Timothy to stand firm, to take a different approach to what the foolish and the ignorance was within the body, and stand firm against that. That's what I was...
So, you know, that's the kind of the counterfeit, you know, Stay away from the counterfeit. But what is the key that he always told him? Don't deviate from the truth. Know the truth. He always said, you know, stay away from this. I think in the beginning of 2 Timothy, there's one. I can't remember. I think I did the lesson on it. And the word was to really stay away.
Don't even ear to it. Don't even listen at all to this. you know, the instructions that are, deviate from the truth. Don't even, you know, like, la la la la la la la, don't listen to it, don't even give ear to it. Similar, you know, here is that he's, don't even listen to these, but in order to do that, you've got to know the truth. So, I said, do not deviate from the truth. Do not deviate from what Paul has instructed Timothy.
Know the truth so you can remain true to God's word. And then there are several verses from 2 Timothy that we can look at that reinforce this instruction. If we look at 2 Timothy 1, verses 12 and 14, For this reason I also suffer these things, but I am not ashamed, for I know whom I believe, and I am convinced that he is able to guard what I have entrusted to him until that day. Retain the standard of sound words which you have heard from me, in the faith and love which are in Christ Jesus. guard through the Holy Spirit who dwells in us the treasure which has been entrusted to you." Those are the words.
He's drilling into Timothy. You've got to know the truth. You've got to know what I taught you. You've got to know God's Word. That's the bedrock. That's how you know what the counterfeit is. I think it's also needed to be pointed out that Paul's message was new. He was given specific revelation about the church, identification, grace, position, all those things that he taught. And he was the one. So what he's instructing Timothy and Titus to do is, you've heard me. You know what I teach, and don't vary from that. Not because I picked up from somebody else, I got it directly from the Lord, and it's new. Yeah. Well, yeah, you know, kind of remain strong in that. It's new.
Don't, and you know, that was again what we talked about in your youthful, you know, don't let the people, because you're young, pound you because you're teaching what I taught taught you. I mean, he's given a lot of warning to him, you know, stay true to what I taught you. And that's through Titus and Timothy, both books of Timothy. You know, he's just saying, remain to what I taught you, stay strong. And another one, 2 Timothy 2, 1 and 2, you therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus.
And the things which you have heard from me in the presence of many witnesses, These entrust to faithful men who will be able to teach others also. So, and these things which you heard from me in the presence of many witnesses, stay true to what I told you. Stay true, don't listen to other people. And then, you know, what he tells us, entrust it to faithful men who will be able to teach others.
So, then 2 Timothy 2, 15, be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, handling accurately the word of truth. So again, Paul repeatedly tells him, know the truth, know the truth, know the truth, know what I taught you, stay true to that.
And now he's telling him, refuse these foolish and ignorant people who are, as JD says, they're starting to want a little gangrene in there. They want a little bit of an infection. They want wild, foolish ones that, hey, you're crazy, and this is all new, as Mike said. Don't listen to Timothy. and ignorant, probably going back to some Jewish traditions or bringing in some of those things. Don't listen to them. He's saying, don't listen. You know what I taught you. Stay true to that. So it's just continuing on what Paul has been telling him all along in these letters. In Titus 2, you'll see the same path.
So, again, refuse these things. uh... refuse and don't give an ear to avoid them don't even get it don't let that gangrene start in you know in uh... a body don't let it get into the into the church don't let it you know spread don't even let it start because it's hard to get rid of so that's what he's telling now what is the question three was a better word for speculation so but refuse foolish and ignorant speculations knowing that they produce coral so these ignorant people are spreading Speculations.
So what's a better word for speculations? That's kind of something we don't use too often. Speculations. So what would that be? Speculations. What if you speculate? What do you do when you speculate? You wrangle about words. Wrangle about words. And it's without a basis, without a foundation. I can speculate on the stock market. Great. I have no base, no strong, no foundation, no anything. I can tell you what I think, but I wouldn't take investment advice from me. I can speculate all I want, but there's no basis. There's no foundation to it. And it's just words. Yeah. You kind of gave the answer there. I can tell you what I think. Yeah. That's a speculation. That's a great point. It's what I think. What's the basis of that? Me.
Well, and it ruins those who hear, too. Yeah, just in the verse just up the chapter there, that useless chatter, that wrangling about words, ruins those who hear and leads many astray. And again, you brought it up, the gangrene. And it's again this warning from what he did earlier in Timothy and 1 Timothy, is avoid it. Don't even give ear to it. Refuse it. Refuse it. Turn away from it. Don't allow it to even penetrate you and get into your mind. Because once it gets in, it's just like gangrene. It just starts to spread. That's why there's so many denominations.
Well, yeah. Well, yeah. Yes, I think this is more kind of, I think at this time it was probably, maybe Mike knows more, I think this is, you know, maybe some of the Jewish, trying to bring back in some of the Jewish things, trying to bring back in law or bring back in some of the things that, yeah, so I think that's probably more what's going on. I think that's because the Gentiles probably, maybe they had more of, you know, maybe idol worship or something like that, possibly. But I think more of this is probably Jewish. Do you know, Mike?
That they're probably trying to bring a little Jewish law back into this. My thought here is that what he's telling him to avoid is the technique used. The technique that I would use to bump you off and question the way you do it. And all you have to do is watch. of those reporters ask a question where they assume that they know the answer. It's the old stories that when did you stop beating your wife? Well, I never started beating my wife.
But now you've got it. Now you have the answer. You've got the train going. So, you know, better word for a speculator. So the Greek word is dizetesis. Which means questioning, from Mike's notes. Be aware that questions are a tool by the ignorant to divert off the truth. So, answer a question with a question. These are speculations. I'm trying to get you over here, so I'm going to ask you a question. Here's the truth, but I'm going to point you over here.
I'm going to start you off the path. And that was from the earlier warnings in Timothy where, and I can't remember which one, it was in, like I said, one of my lessons, and it was a word that meant just don't even start there, don't even turn your ear to it. Literally, plug your ears and la la la la la la la, don't let it start. Because once you get off that path, you start to deviate very quickly away from the truth.
So these speculations are meant to divert the truth. It's meant to bring you off. Foolish people who have a mal-intent want you to come over here and look over here. Look at the silver shiny object over here. Get away from the truth. And refuse that. Refuse that. Don't even get there.
An old cliche is, he who asks the question is in control of the conversation. So you keep asking questions. When did you stop beating your wife? You're now in control of the conversation. That person now has to respond, well, wait a minute, you didn't. Well, did you really have a time when you beat your wife?
And then you can just keep drawing them off away into something that they didn't even have any truth or basis to. A lot of people will do this, too. If you ask a question, you know they're diverting if they ask you a question back. They're trying to stay away from the truth.
They'll ask you a question. And you say, I'm trying to think of something. You know, how was your day? Well, how was your day? It diverts them from what they're talking about. You know, you immediately are back, they're in control. They're asking you and getting you over here. So, again, Tennessee's don't be, Tennessee's don't be fooled by this ploy. Don't be fooled by it. Don't let these speculations, these wild, you know, topics or little things off the truth. Don't even get there. Don't be fooled by them.
And Zodiatis had this in the definition for the Greek word. A word used by the Greeks to indicate philosophical inquiry. In the New Testament it indicates an exchange of words rather than a true search. And I thought that was probably the best for speculations. An exchange of words rather than a true search. Speculations are not based on the truth. and philosophical inquiry.
I think we don't have any philosophy majors in here, do we? So philosophy is, again, I've many times said, to describe a philosophy major, it's somebody trying to pin Jell-O on a wall. You just can't get them to find a basis, a foundation, or anything. You can't put a jello on a wall. You can't pin it to the wall. You can't pin them down because there's no foundation.
They'll take you wherever they want by questions. And again, we have some philosophy in our family. And trying to get into a discussion sometimes, it's just we started here and we're three miles that way by the end of the conversation. And I don't know how I got there.
Idle speculations, ignorant speculations, stay away from them. They have no basis in truth. So, we've gotten to, but refuse foolish and ignorant speculations knowing that they produce quarrels. So, how strong a word is refuse? And I think some translations have avoid. So, is that like just kind of, you know, listen but don't really take it to heart? Is that what it means? This is a very strong word. The Greek word is perahiteomahi, which means to avoid, refuse, or decline.
So, I mean, again, don't give ear to it, don't start, don't even kind of entertain the idea that they're bringing, these false, no basis speculations. Don't even give an ear to it. Don't start thinking about it, because again, the philosophical side with Zodiacs and Speculations.
They're trying to get you over here by questions or you bring it and you start the questioning and suddenly you're over here. You're way away from the truth. So don't even get on the train. Don't even get on that, you know, what do you really mean? And let's get into it and back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. And you know it's wrong. If you know it's wrong, don't engage and start this train off to the side.
So it's a very strong word, and then also it's a verb, actually, it's present tense, which continually do it. It's a middle voice, so you're in a conversation, you're part of this, and it's an imperative, it's a command. It's a command, refuse, don't do it. So the verb mood, basically, it's a command, don't do this.
So Paul also gave similar instructions to Titus, in Titus 3, 9 and 11. but avoid foolish," again there's our word again, "...controversies and genealogies and strife and disputes about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless." Again, here we find, "...reject a factious man after first and second warning, knowing that such a man is perverted and is sinning, being self-condemned." So the same thing he's given to Titus, the pastoral guidance, and by translation or association, it's to us too. Avoid foolish controversies. Avoid those things. Don't even start it. And reject a factious man. Reject those who bring these false, ignorant, foolish things before you. Don't even entertain it.
You know what the truth is and stay true to the word. Don't get pulled over by questions and other things that draw you away. Chester McCauley's note said, the verb refuse means don't have anything to do with it. It is a strong word and refers not only to avoidance, but to actual and vigorous rejection.
So again, these are all certain things that should not receive the dignity of one's attention. You shouldn't even entertain it. Don't even get on that question route that takes you over here. That's the warning. It's a very strong, strong warning. Avoid people who just want to talk and don't have any basis for their talk. Foolish words. Ignorant words. Stay away from them.
So, any thoughts? Yeah, I have a thought. I think it's really easy to want to share what you have to say, right? I mean, that comes out pretty naturally. It's like, this is what's on my mind. If you're going to go at me, I'm going to go at you. I might take you off on that rabbit trail. I think everything comes back to verse 25, which I know we're not there yet in the lesson, but the goal there is a gentleness and a correcting. And I can honestly tell you that the human nature will never want to approach things that way. It has to be the Spirit.
Otherwise we are going to get in a word fight. I will argue you till the end of my time So that I can be right because I'm a mean monster I want me to be right and I don't want you to be right so Paul is encouraging Timothy to respond in a way that is completely counterculture and completely opposite of what would be profitable. And that's one of the things that they did, was they would argue philosophy, and they would bring out speculations in order to prove their wisdom. And Paul is saying it's completely opposite of that.
The Spirit of God does not respond the way that the human nature responds. The old man works. And I think all of the voiding of the gangrene and the foolish speculations and so forth are a complete reliance on the Spirit, because we would not do that.
Right. I think that's inherent, that if it's based out of us, we're going to fight it, we're going to do it, because I want to win. I think you're wrong. Well, let's talk about it. Let's do it in love, yeah. uh... which we will get to you know and and again all of this is in you know you have to do it in the spirit of love which will get into it and what's what's your response but you know i think the thing is though it and you brought it out of him when we start when i think about this when you start doing you say i think or i you know i think the thing is you just go back to the word if you get into you know we we get into people who don't know the word they're ignorant and they're they have probably all sorts of strange thoughts.
And again, that's the Timothy one. Reject them after one or two. You can engage them, but only in the Word. Don't say, I think, or whatever. I think, Mike, you'd say something in the Romans when you're talking about identification. Read Romans 6-6. Read Romans 6-11. What does that mean?
And bring them back to the Word. That's how you can get into a discussion with them. But don't get caught up into their questions and if they keep, you know, and that's why I brought in Titus, one or two times, reject them. You know, you can have a conversation with them in love, but you only refer to the word. Yes. Yeah, you could speak. Oh, she actually had a really good point.
A lot of the times, this is maybe a little bit, Adjacent to what Paul is telling Timothy, but I think it relates to us as believers in the sense that a lot of the times we get in word tangling even in marriage relationships with our kids with our friends and It's different when they're a believer because you have a you have a base that you can rely on And that is, Christ in me has no problem with Christ in you. We don't have to quarrel and tangle in word fight. That's not how God's word works. But when you find yourself in a word tangle, so to speak, or a quarrelsome situation, I think you have to be encouraged, just as Paul was encouraging Timothy to say, One of us, or both of us, are not trusting the Lord with this situation, because that's not the kind of quality of language that happens with believers.
Yeah. Well, and again, I think the factious one, in Timothy and others, where it basically is saying, if somebody's just always, you know, picking and picking and picking and picking, and just getting into, you know, stripes and genealogies and, you know, this, I think, you reject them after a certain amount of time, quarrelsome. And again, it's done in love. It has been done in love, because two of us in Christ. But I think it's always got to go back to God's Word. That's the key. And that's what he's given Timothy here.
Yeah, and Hymenaeus and Philetus were not. They were completely taking it off the charts, off the rails, and it upset the faith. And again, it's just, you know, these guys were, you know, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick off, you know, just trying to get that gangrene going.
You know, I was thinking, maybe I said, I don't know if I said it in one of the last classes. How terrible is it that these two guys are forever tagged in scripture, that your name is two guys forever... That I can't pronounce. That I can't pronounce.
Are forever labeled as troublemakers. You know, and I think there's some in the end of Romans where he gives all the accolades and stuff. And then there are a couple like, oof, this guy's a, you know, like for all eternity, well, eternity maybe, I don't know. But in scripture, their names are carried forth as being pretty bad people. And so, you know, we can't pronounce their names, but they are forever tagged as being irritants that started gangrene in the body. All right, well, I think we're at time. So we'll start with question five next week. Did I say that?
Yeah, there's certain things that should not receive the dignity of one's attention. I think that's kind of the summary, is that certain things should not receive the dignity of one's attention. If it's foolish speculations, and you know it's just for picking apart and drawing you over here, Don't even give it a second thought. That's hard to learn though.
I think what JD said too, what does your nature, what does your sinful nature want to do? It's on, it's on. Because you're probably in that, you're angry, which we're going to get to the verses about how do you do it in love and that. So your first inclination is, I want to knock this guy's block off with my knowledge and what I know and all this. But once you learn it, it settles in your heart and there's a piece of like, this is how to approach this. But until then, it's hard.
Oh yeah, I know. And again, a lot of times, even when you've known that, you still fall back a lot of times. If it's just enough to tweak me where I need, when it tweaks me, It just... Yeah, you didn't arrive. All that knowledge that I had just went down the drain because it tweaked me just where I don't like it. Yes, I can relate. And then you have to realize that quickly that that is not how I should respond. That is not what the instruction is here.
Don't do that. Don't do that. Alright, let's close. Heavenly Father, we thank you. We thank you again for this instruction. The warning that you gave Paul to give to us that says just refuse, don't even engage in foolishness and in ignorant speculations or ignorant bunch of words that don't have any foundation in your word. And just don't even give ear to it, refuse it. Don't get down that rabbit trail that takes us away from the truth and from our fellowship with you.
So we just, we pray for that individual in each and every one of us that we have the ability to just know the truth, and that's the key, is knowing the truth. Then you know the counterfeit, then you know the foolish speculations, because you know the truth. So we just ask that each and every one of us know the truth. uh... impart that into our hearts the truth of your word and uh... so we can see the counterfeit we can refuse and refute those who come to us with uh... foolish and ignorant speculation so we just pray for that individually and uh... father we just thank you again for your word and the indwelling of your holy spirit which gives us that guidance and father we just uh... thank you for all that you do for us each and every day including this day and we uh... just thank you for all these things in jesus name all right we'll start with question five next week